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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghay

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Apr 18 11:28:30 2014

Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 11:28:10 -0400
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <CAFgJOr3Rq0AcVGKryTjacw8NL=Kq5LO2Oa5GqPQT4Zw-Rf8cKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 4/18/2014 11:19 AM, Brent Kesler wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu
> <mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>        jorwI'mey ghaymo' qarDaSnganpu', Hegh SuvwI'pu'lI' law'
>         'ej rIQ SuvwI'pu'lI' law'
>        Suffer major losses after Cardassian bombing campaign. MKE
>
>     BTW notice the repetition of the subject phrase {SuvwI'pu' law'}
>     "many warriors" in the main clause(s).
>
>
> I've been working on a sort of essay, and I've not been been repeating
> subject phrases like that. So I'm hoping for some discussion. What do
> people think of:
>
> 1. (?) Hegh SuvwI'pu'lI' law' 'ej riQ.
> -- vs. --
> 2. Hegh SuvwI'pu'lI' law' 'ej rIQ SuvwI'pu'lI' law'.
>
> Is Sentence 1 unclear? Just bad Klingon? Or is Sentence 2 just an extra
> precise version of Sentence 2?

I believe Klingon is less worried about the sound of repetition than is 
English. Most things that you may optionally leave out are not required 
to be left out. for instance, it's perfectly valid to say {'oH legh 
ghaH} even if you're perfectly aware of what {'oH} and {ghaH} refer to. 
This does not provide emphasis (unless you vocally stress the pronoun) 
unlike what you may see on this list; for that use {-'e'}. Things are 
often left off because it's convenient to do so, not because it's 
stilted if you don't.

-- 
SuStel
http://www.trimboli.name/

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