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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Star Trek Into Darkness
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr. PKT)
Mon Apr 8 20:34:02 2013
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:33:31 -0400
From: "Michael Roney, Jr. PKT" <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: "Fiat Knox" <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
"Klingon Mailing List" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Qo'!<br><br>I, um, have a pickle phobia.<br><br>I'm now reconsidering my pl=
ans to see the film.<br><br><span style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana, sa=
n-serif;">~naHQun <br><br></span><span id=3D"signature"><div style=3D"=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">~Michael R=
oney, Jr.<br>Professional Klingon translator<br>webOS developer<br><br>-- S=
ent from my "Franken" Palm Pre 2</div><br></span><span style=3D"color:navy;=
font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr align=3D"left" style=3D"wid=
th:75%">On Apr 8, 2013 20:22, Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote=
: <br><br></span><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-fami=
ly:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>jIHagh!</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: nor=
mal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transpa=
rent; font-style: normal;">*Hov leng Hurgh* "Star Trek Pickle" is is, then!=
:)<br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16p=
x; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparen=
t; font-style: normal;"><span></span><br></div><div>+++++++++++++++++++++++=
++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>Freelance Author</div><br><div><br></div><div>T=
he Plainclothes Clown: http://fiat-knox.livejournal.com<br>The Serpent's To=
ngue: http://toscapetheserpentstongue.blogspot.com/<br> <blockquote
style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin=
-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new y=
ork, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font f=
ace=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld;">From:</span></b> Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca><br> <b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalki=
ngdom.org <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesd=
ay, 9 April 2013, 1:12<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</=
span></b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Star Trek Into Darkness<br> </font> </div> <br=
>Parsing of the movie's title is a topic of hilariously hot debate even in<=
br>English. No amount of pronouncement will solve it here.<br> <a href=3D"h=
ttp://xkcd.com/1167/" target=3D"_blank">http://xkcd.com/1167/</a><br><br>Pe=
rsonally I adore
the phrasings that can be accidentally interpreted as<br>referring to pick=
les. I'm simply going to call it <Hov leng Hurgh>, and<br>whether I t=
hink of it as the pickle movie or the dark one will depend on the<br>experi=
ence of the watching.<br><br>- Qov<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>Fro=
m: David Trimboli [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:david@trimboli.name" href=3D=
"mailto:david@trimboli.name">david@trimboli.name</a>] <br>Sent: April 8, 20=
13 7:12 AM<br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.or=
g" href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org">tlhingan-hol@stodi=
=2Edigitalkingdom.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Star Trek Into Dar=
kness<br><br>On 4/8/2013 9:38 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:<br>> Fiat Knox:<b=
r>>> How would you translate the title "Star Trek Into Darkness"<br>&=
gt;> without it coming out as "Star Trek In A Pickle?"<br>>> Altho=
ugh, come to think of it ...<br>><br>> I see your point. Since the
original isn't a complete sentence, only a <br>> phrase, you might try =
*{Hov Leng: HurghchoH/HurghlI'} <br>> "turning/becoming dark" - but I ca=
n't remember unconjugated verbs <br>> being used like this in a title be=
fore. If you want to avoid the <br>> {Hurgh} pickle, some options are:<b=
r><br>It's not "Star Trek: Into Darkness"; it's "Star Trek Into Darkness." =
<br>That is, it's not the Star Trek movie called "Into Darkness"; it's<br>(=
presumably) a movie about trekking among the stars into darkness.<br><br>vI=
bej 'e' vInabbe'ba'...<br><br>--<br>SuStel<br><a href=3D"http://www.trimbol=
i.name/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.trimboli.name/</a><br><br>___________=
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