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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ret
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sat Dec 1 22:07:09 2012
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com>,
"tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 03:06:31 +0000
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> netlh DIS law' ret tIQbe' yuQvam'e' tIQ
This sentence is mostly good; you just need to move the -'e' to the end of =
tIQ (when you add a type-5 noun suffix to a noun+"adjective" construct, it =
goes after the "adjective").
Also, I'd recommend moving the {law'} to between {netlh} and {DIS}, so it's=
"many tens of thousands of years", rather than "ten of thousands of many y=
ears".
> Sornganpu' HuDnganpu' lung'a'pu' loDHompu' je toq.
{toq} means "be inhabited", so this means something like "inhabited tree-dw=
ellers, mountain-dwellers, dragons and boys."
I recommend instead switching to {[lu]tu'lu'} ("there is"/"there are"), or =
possibly the verb {Dab} ({luDab X Y Z je.}).
> This isn't a perfect word-for-word rendering, but points to the list
> member who recognizes the original quote and where it's from.
QemjIq DabwI'?
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From: Gaerfindel [gaerfindel@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 02:15
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ret
On 12/1/2012 11:32 AM, De'vID wrote:
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com<mailto:g=
aerfindel@hotmail.com>> wrote:
A correction: {netlh DIS law' ret tIQbe' yuQvam'e' tIQ, Sornganpu' HuDnganp=
u' lung'a'pu' loDHompu' je toq.}
jIyajbe'. jatlhlaH'a' lung'a'pu'qoqvetlh? 'ej toq 'Iv?
In order:
{lung} means "lizard" (KGT 218) so a {lung'a'} would be a "great lizard." =
{lung'a'pu'} implies they're capable of language, so...
I indicated that {yuQvam}, "this planet," was the topic by adding the suffi=
x {-'e'}. Ergo this planet (Earth) is/was inhabited by the creatures I lis=
ted. Given that I stated the topic in the previous sentence, I didn't thin=
k I needed to restate it in the second.
~quljIb
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10pt;">> netlh DIS law' ret tIQbe' yuQvam'e' tIQ<br>
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This sentence is mostly good; you just need to move the -'e' to the end of =
tIQ (when you add a type-5 noun suffix to a noun+"adjective" =
construct, it goes after the "adjective").<br>
<br>
Also, I'd recommend moving the {law'} to between {netlh} and {DIS}, so it's=
"many tens of thousands of years", rather than "ten of thou=
sands of many years".<br>
<br>
> Sornganpu' HuDnganpu' lung'a'pu' loDHompu' je toq.<br>
<br>
{toq} means "be inhabited", so this means something like "in=
habited tree-dwellers, mountain-dwellers, dragons and boys."<br>
<br>
I recommend instead switching to {[lu]tu'lu'} ("there is"/"t=
here are"), or possibly the verb {Dab} ({luDab X Y Z je.}).<br>
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> This isn't a perfect word-for-word rendering, but points to the list <=
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> member who recognizes the original quote and where it's from.<br>
<br>
QemjIq DabwI'?<br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2012 11:32 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Gaerfindel <span =
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<<a href=3D"mailto:gaerfindel@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gaerfindel@=
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A correction: {netlh DIS law' ret tIQbe' yuQvam'e' tIQ, Sornganpu' HuDnganp=
u' lung'a'pu' loDHompu' je toq.}</blockquote>
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jIyajbe'. jatlhlaH'a' lung'a'pu'qoqvetlh? 'ej toq 'Iv?<br>
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<br>
In order:<br>
<br>
{lung} means "lizard" (KGT 218) so a {lung'a'} would be a "g=
reat lizard." {lung'a'pu'} implies they're capable of language, =
so...<br>
<br>
I indicated that {yuQvam}, "this planet," was the topic by adding=
the suffix {-'e'}. Ergo this planet (Earth) is/was inhabited by the =
creatures I listed. Given that I stated the topic in the previous sen=
tence, I didn't think I needed to restate it in the
second.<br>
<br>
~quljIb<br>
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