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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qul tuq.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Fri Aug 10 16:15:31 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:15:20 +0000
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E87711C36B85@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
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Interestingly, the last line parallels this bit from another song, the Warr=
ior's Anthem:
yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'
Say'moHchu' may' 'Iw.
[...]
pa' reH maSuvtaHqu'.
mamevQo'. maSuvtaH. ma'ov.
The blood of battle washes clean
The Warrior brave and true.
[...]
where we battle forever,
battling on through the Eternal Fight.
If it is by Okrand, could this actually be {reH SuvtaH jaqbogh yoHbogh je g=
hotpu'}? Just an idea.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:38 PM
The transcript in klingonska.org's canon archive reads:
Uuaaooo ma-kool aaaooo ma-sar reshuv tak yak bo ej gogh bow
ghotpu'.
It's hard to make out, but I think this is what Marc Okrand might have actu=
ally written:
'o meQ qul!
'o meQ chal!
reH SuvtaH jaqbogh 'ej yoHbogh(?) ghotpu'.
So:
Oh, the fire burns!
Oh, the sky burns!
The brave and bold people are always fighting.
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ctly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:Pica">Interestingly, the last line parallels this bit from another so=
ng, the Warrior’s Anthem:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ctly"><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:Pica;font-weight:bold"> yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'<o:p></o:=
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ctly"><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:Pica;font-weight:bold"> pa' reH maSuvtaHqu'</span></font></b=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:12.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exa=
ctly"><b><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:Pica;font-weight:bold"> mamevQo'</span></font></b><font face=
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eight:bold">maSuvtaH</span></b>.
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">ma'ov</span></b>.<o:p></o:p></sp=
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ctly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:Pica"> The blood of battle washes clean<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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ctly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:Pica"> The Warrior brave and true.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ctly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
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tly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Pica"> where we battle forever,
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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tly"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Pica"> battling on through the Eternal Fight.<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Pica"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:Pica">If it is by Okrand, could this actually be {re=
H SuvtaH jaqbogh yoHbogh je ghotpu’}? Just an idea.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>
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><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Ca'Non=
Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Felix
Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 10, 201=
2 2:38 PM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-seri=
f";color:black">The transcript in klingonska.org's canon archive reads=
:
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=3D"2" color=3D"black" face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;color:black">Uuaaooo ma-kool aaaooo ma-sar reshuv tak yak b=
o ej gogh bow<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size=3D"2" color=3D"black" face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;color:black">ghotpu'.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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f";color:black"><br>
It's hard to make out, but I think this is what Marc Okrand might have actu=
ally written:<br>
<br>
'o meQ qul!<br>
'o meQ chal!<br>
reH SuvtaH jaqbogh 'ej yoHbogh(?) ghotpu'.<br>
<br>
So:<br>
Oh, the fire burns!<br>
Oh, the sky burns!<br>
The brave and bold people are always fighting.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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