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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: laQ

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Fri Aug 10 16:03:18 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:02:59 +0000
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E87711C36B75@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
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That's right.  It was just to distinguish {meQ} "burn" (i.e. be on fire) fr=
om {laQ} "fire, energize" & {baH} "fire (torpedoes, etc.)".

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:16 PM

ghItlhta' ghunchu'wI',
>> meQ             be on fire (v)
> Hal yIngu'neS.

I'm guessing Voragh is extrapolating from <meQtaHbogh qachDaq Suv qoH neH> =
("Only a fool fights in a burning house.").

Interestingly, it seems <meQ> can also mean "be burnt" (as in <Ha'DIbaHmey =
meQ Sop 'e' tIv tera'nganpu'>) and "to cause to burn" (as in <to'waQ meQ vu=
twI'>). [I'm a bit suspicious toward that last one, myself, and always use =
<meQmoH>, but it is canon.]

________________________________
From: ghunchu'wI' 'utlh [qunchuy@alcaco.net]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 20:29
To: Klingon language email discussion forum
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: laQ
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto=
:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote:
meQ             be on fire (v)
Hal yIngu'neS.

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or:#1F497D">That&#8217;s right.&nbsp; It was just to distinguish {meQ} &#82=
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uot;"> Felix
 Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 10, 201=
2 2:16 PM<br>
<br>
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f&quot;;color:black">ghItlhta' ghunchu'wI',<br>
&gt;&gt; meQ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; be on fire (v)<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>
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ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&gt; Hal yIngu'neS.<br>
<br>
I'm guessing Voragh is extrapolating from &lt;meQtaHbogh qachDaq Suv qoH ne=
H&gt; (&quot;Only a fool fights in a burning house.&quot;).<br>
<br>
Interestingly, it seems &lt;meQ&gt; can also mean &quot;be burnt&quot; (as =
in &lt;Ha'DIbaHmey meQ Sop 'e' tIv tera'nganpu'&gt;) and &quot;to cause to =
burn&quot; (as in &lt;to'waQ meQ vutwI'&gt;). [I'm a bit suspicious toward =
that last one, myself, and always use &lt;meQmoH&gt;, but it is canon.]<br>
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 ghunchu'wI' 'utlh [qunchuy@alcaco.net]<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 10, 201=
2 20:29<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Klingon language email d=
iscussion forum<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] =
Klingon Word of the Day: laQ</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1=
0:13 AM, Steven Boozer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target=
=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">meQ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; be on fire (v)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New R=
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