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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: pav
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue May 29 10:34:49 2012
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>, "tlhingan-hol@kli.org"
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:33:49 +0000
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Star Trek V:
Vixis: HoD, yo' SeHyaH nIvvo' potlh De' wIHevtaH (?)
(Captain, new data, hostages on Nimbus III.) [sic]
{Captain, we are receiving a priority message from Operations Command.}
[Clearly, this is NOT the line she is saying!]}
Source: http://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2008/October/msg00037.html
It may be that this is an error. However, it may also be that this is not really a noun-verb construction meaning "important information", but rather a noun-noun construction meaning "information pertaining to something important". It seems to me that this may be a way of distinguishing between priority messages (an official designation for a specific concept) as opposed to messages which are prioritized (a more subjective description).
Compare with <pegh vIttlhegh>: It's a proverb for secrets, not a secret proverb (vIttlhegh pegh).
Also compare with ngoqDe' = "encoded message" (or is it *<ngoq De'>?)
[Vixis: DIvI' Se' wI'IjtaHvIS DaH ngoqDe' wIHevta'.
We've just received an encoded message on the Federation frequency.]
Vixis: nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'
(The Starship Enterprise has been dispatched to Nimbus III.)
Klaa: 'entepray''a'. qIrq Duj 'oH
(Enterprise? That's Kirk's ship!)
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From: Philip Newton [philip.newton@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 16:20
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: pav
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> potlh De' priority message
That doesn't seem like a 1:1 translation... unless it was {De' potlh}?
Though I can imagine a scenario where the Klingon has {potlh De'} and
the English translation has "priority message"... can you provide the
source for this phrase, perhaps?
Cheers,
Philip
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Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
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