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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Mar 20 15:00:47 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:00:31 -0500
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Was Wally's friend Clarence ever referred to by the short form "Clar(e)"? =
Wally did refer to "the Beaver" as "Beave" or "the Beave" on occasion IIRC,
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
From: lojmIt tI'wI'nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:53 PM
Even so, that's six disyllable verbs out of what I count as 908 non-derivat=
ive verbs. That's 902 monosyllabic verbs. That's a pretty strong trend. So,=
when wanting to make a verb meaning "lumpy" out of Clarence Rutherford's n=
ame, there's pressure to call it {tlher} and not {tlherenSe'}, since that w=
ould create the first trisyllable verb in the language, and the concept of =
being lumpy is just not important enough to be that exceptional.
On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Andr=E9 M=FCller wrote:
On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Terrence Donnelly wrote:
> Lumpy's sister was named Violet. I don't know if there was a Claire on th=
at show.
>
> -- ter'eS
>
> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net<m=
ailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>
>> From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net<mailto:terrence=
.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je
>>
>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca<mailto:robyn@fl=
yingstart.ca>>
>> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know the pun behind {tlher}?
>>>
>>> I can't remember whether it was the Beaver or his big
>>> brother, but one of them had a pal named Lumpy.
>>>
>>
>> The Beaver's big brother, Wally, had a friend named Clarence
>> Rutherford, who was nicknamed Lumpy. His little sister, who
>> was in Beaver's class, was named Claire.
>>
>> -- ter'eS
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family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Was Wally’s friend Clarence ever =
referred to by the short form “Clar(e)”?=A0 Wally did refer to =
“the Beaver” as “Beave” or “the Beave” =
on occasion IIRC,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><fo=
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497D'>Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D=
2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DConsolas><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span=
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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight=
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ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv [mailt=
o:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com] <br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:<=
/span></b> Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:53 PM<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:12.0pt'>Even so, that's six disyllable verbs out of what I count=
as 908 non-derivative verbs. That's 902 monosyllabic verbs. That's a prett=
y strong trend. So, when wanting to make a verb meaning "lumpy" o=
ut of Clarence Rutherford's name, there's pressure to call it {tlher} and n=
ot {tlherenSe'}, since that would create the first trisyllable verb in the =
language, and the concept of being lumpy is just not important enough to be=
that exceptional.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt=
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=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> <=
/o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Mar 19, 2012, at 1=
0:08 PM, Andr=E9 M=FCller wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Terrence Donnelly wrote:=
<br><br>> Lumpy's sister was named Violet. I don't know if there was a C=
laire on that show.<br>><br>> -- ter'eS<br>><br>> --- On Mon, 3=
/19/12, Terrence Donnelly <<a href=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal=
.net">terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> Fr=
om: Terrence Donnelly <<a href=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net=
">terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [Tlhinga=
n-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je<br><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:=
#1F497D'>>><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-left:5.25pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Robyn Stewar=
t <<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>><=
br>>> wrote:<br>>>>> Does anyone know the pun behind {tlh=
er}?<br>>>><br>>>> I can't remember whether it was the Be=
aver or his big<br>>>> brother, but one of them had a pal named Lu=
mpy.<br>>>><br>>><br>>> The Beaver's big brother, Wall=
y, had a friend named Clarence<br>>> Rutherford, who was nicknamed Lu=
mpy. His little sister, who<br>>> was in Beaver's class, was named Cl=
aire.<br>>><br>>> -- ter'eS<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
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