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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Terrence Donnelly)
Tue Mar 20 16:32:31 2012
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
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As I recall, they only ever called him Lumpy, mostly because he hated the n=
ickname.
-- ter'eS
--- On Tue, 3/20/12, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org" <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalking=
dom.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 2:00 PM
Was Wally=E2=80=99s friend Clarence ever referred to by the short form =E2=
=80=9CClar(e)=E2=80=9D?=C2=A0 Wally did refer to =E2=80=9Cthe Beaver=E2=80=
=9D as =E2=80=9CBeave=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cthe Beave=E2=80=9D on occasion I=
IRC, =C2=A0--VoraghCa'Non Master of the Klingons =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: lojmIt =
tI'wI'nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:53 PM
=C2=A0Even so, that's six disyllable verbs out of what I count as 908 non-=
derivative verbs. That's 902 monosyllabic verbs. That's a pretty strong tre=
nd. So, when wanting to make a verb meaning "lumpy" out of Clarence Rutherf=
ord's name, there's pressure to call it {tlher} and not {tlherenSe'}, since=
that would create the first trisyllable verb in the language, and the conc=
ept of being lumpy is just not important enough to be that exceptional. =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller wrote:On Mar=
19, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Terrence Donnelly wrote:
> Lumpy's sister was named Violet. I don't know if there was a Claire on th=
at show.
>
> -- ter'eS
>
> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net> =
wrote:
>
>> From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je
>>>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know the pun behind {tlher}?
>>>
>>> I can't remember whether it was the Beaver or his big
>>> brother, but one of them had a pal named Lumpy.
>>>
>>
>> The Beaver's big brother, Wally, had a friend named Clarence
>> Rutherford, who was nicknamed Lumpy. His little sister, who
>> was in Beaver's class, was named Claire.
>>
>> -- ter'eS
=C2=A0
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">As I recall, they only ever called him Lumpy,=
mostly because he hated the nickname.<br><br>-- ter'eS<br><br>--- On <b>Tu=
e, 3/20/12, Steven Boozer <i><sboozer@uchicago.edu></i></b> wrote:<br=
><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left:=
5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu&=
gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je<br>To: "tlhingan-hol=
@stodi.digitalkingdom.org" <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org><br=
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;">Was Wally=E2=80=99s friend Clarence ever referred to by the short form =
=E2=80=9CClar(e)=E2=80=9D? Wally did refer to =E2=80=9Cthe Beaver=E2=
=80=9D as =E2=80=9CBeave=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cthe Beave=E2=80=9D on occasio=
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face=3D"Consolas" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:C=
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" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif&q=
uot;;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> lojmIt tI'=
wI'nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com] <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight=
:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:53 PM<br><br></span></fo=
nt></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times =
New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></fon=
t></p><div><p class=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roma=
n" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Even so, that's six disylla=
ble verbs out of what I count as 908 non-derivative verbs. That's 902 monos=
yllabic verbs. That's a pretty strong trend. So, when wanting to make a ver=
b meaning "lumpy" out of Clarence Rutherford's name, there's pressure to ca=
ll it {tlher} and not {tlherenSe'}, since that would create the first trisy=
llable verb in the language, and the concept of being lumpy is just not imp=
ortant enough to be that exceptional.</span></font></p></div><div><p
class=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></p></div><p class=
=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span=
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></p><div><div><p class=3D=
"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCl=
ler wrote:</span></font></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNor=
mal"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;">On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Terrence Donnelly wrote:<br><br>> Lum=
py's sister was named Violet. I don't know if there was a Claire on that sh=
ow.<br>><br>> -- ter'eS<br>><br>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Terrence=
Donnelly <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcgl=
obal.net" target=3D"_blank"
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dterrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net">terrence.donnell=
y@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> From: Terrence Donnelly =
<<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dterrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net"=
>terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan=
-hol] {warjun} {tlher} je<br><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D"color:#=
1F497D;">>></span></font></span></font></p><p class=3D"yiv1262657749M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-left:5.25pt;"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Roby=
n Stewart <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Drobyn@flyingstart.ca">robyn@flyin=
gstart.ca</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>>>> Does anyone know t=
he pun behind {tlher}?<br>>>><br>>>> I can't remember whe=
ther it was the Beaver or his
big<br>>>> brother, but one of them had a pal named Lumpy.<br>>=
;>><br>>><br>>> The Beaver's big brother, Wally, had a fr=
iend named Clarence<br>>> Rutherford, who was nicknamed Lumpy. His li=
ttle sister, who<br>>> was in Beaver's class, was named Claire.<br>&g=
t;><br>>> -- ter'eS<br><br></span></font></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3D"yiv1262657749MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">=
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