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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wa'maH wa'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Feb 21 13:49:52 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:49:29 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPc=52djPCLwCuZshS143v6uwXbBKp5v4Q=i=KzE9a3ag@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
De'vID:
>> CHEKOV: We do believe all planets have a sovereign claim to
>> inalienable human rights.
>
> CHEKOV: Human DIbmey lughaj Hoch yuQmey 'e' wIHar.=A0 paghvaD nov
> DIbmeyvam.[1]
>
> [1] - I know "inalienable" and "alien (to)" are quite different. I did
> the best I could with the pun here.
Inalienable rights "cannot be surrendered, sold or transferred to someone e=
lse - the government, for example, or another person." (see http://wiki.ans=
wers.com/Q/What_are_inalienable_rights). Instead of {nov} "be foreign, be =
alien" just use {taH} "continue, go on, endure, survive" or {ru'Ha'} "be pe=
rmanent": {DIbmey ru'Ha'}. {ru'} "be temporary" has already been used in a=
political sense in {boq ru'} "coalition" [lit. "temporary alliance" as wel=
l as in {mu'mey ru'} "temporary words" (i.e. made-up or nonce words).
Even simpler, this may be a good chance to use the suffix {-na'} "definite,=
definitely, true, real": {DIbna'mey}.
>> CHANG: 'To be, or not to be!', that is the question which
>> preoccupies our people, Captain Kirk. ...We need breathing room.
>
> CHANG: taH pagh taHbe'. mu'tlheghvam'e' luqImqu'taH Seghmaj, qIrq
> HoD... matlhuHmeH logh wIpoQ![2]
> =
> [2] - lebensraum; raum means both room, and space, in German, so I
> used {logh}.
Chang loves quotations, why not just quote the Klingon proverb here:
mataHmeH maSachnIS =
To survive, we must expand. TKW =
Kirk will remember that Mara told him, "There are poor planets in the Kling=
on systems, we must push outward if we are to survive" (TOS "Day of the Dov=
e") and he can still make the connection to Lebensraum.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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