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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wa'maH wa'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Tue Feb 21 14:28:56 2012
In-Reply-To: <C305E6BD33E2654DAE1F8F403247B6A6032082D630CD@EVS02.ad.uchicago.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:28:41 +0100
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
> De'vID:
>>> CHEKOV: We do believe all planets have a sovereign claim to
>>> inalienable human rights.
>>
>> CHEKOV: Human DIbmey lughaj Hoch yuQmey 'e' wIHar.=A0 paghvaD nov
>> DIbmeyvam.[1]
>>
>> [1] - I know "inalienable" and "alien (to)" are quite different. I did
>> the best I could with the pun here.
Voragh:
> Inalienable rights "cannot be surrendered, sold or transferred to someone=
else - the government, for example, or another person." (see http://wiki.a=
nswers.com/Q/What_are_inalienable_rights). =A0Instead of {nov} "be foreign,=
be alien" just use {taH} "continue, go on, endure, survive" or {ru'Ha'} "b=
e permanent": {DIbmey ru'Ha'}. =A0{ru'} "be temporary" has already been use=
d in a political sense in {boq ru'} "coalition" [lit. "temporary alliance" =
as well as in {mu'mey ru'} "temporary words" (i.e. made-up or nonce words).
>
> Even simpler, this may be a good chance to use the suffix {-na'} "definit=
e, definitely, true, real": =A0{DIbna'mey}.
'ach Chekov mu'mey lo'qa' tlha'bogh Azetbur mu'mey'e':
> AZETBUR: Inalien... If only you could hear yourselves? 'Human rights.'
> Why the very name is racist. The Federation is no more than a 'Homo
> sapiens' only club.
{nov} jatlhbe'chugh Chekov, chay' tlha' Azetbur?
Voragh:
> Chang loves quotations, why not just quote the Klingon proverb here:
>
> =A0mataHmeH maSachnIS
> =A0To survive, we must expand. TKW
>
> Kirk will remember that Mara told him, "There are poor planets in the Kli=
ngon systems, we must push outward if we are to survive" (TOS "Day of the D=
ove") and he can still make the connection to Lebensraum.
maj. QaQ mu'tlheghvam.
-- =
De'vID
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