[91931] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' chorgh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Sun Jan 29 01:06:31 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:05:56 +1000
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ghItlhpu' loghaD=2C jatlh:
> I'd like to say taHlaHbe' pagh ("A nothingness cannot endure")=2C or 'u' =
SIQlaHbe' pagh ("A nothingness cannot endure the universe")=2C
Why not reverse that latter one: {pagh SIQlaHbe' 'u'} "the universe cannot =
endure nothing(ness)"? I think it would be interpreted as such by a Klingon=
=2C since I think "there is nothing the universe cannot endure" wouldn't be=
phrased like that=3B a Klingon would surely just say {Hoch SIQlaH 'u'} for=
that idea.
Or given that these are those damned wordy Vulcans talking=2C can we risk a=
{-ghach} and say {chImchu'taHghach} "continuing absolute emptiness" for "v=
acuum"?
ghItlhpu' Qov=2C jatlh:
> I would cast further than that. I don't see that "nature abhors a
> vacuum" is especially relevant to Spock's nepotism here. He's just
> saying that he wants there to be a succession=2C and trying to
> encapsulate it in a pithy saying. I might go with Dal pagh jagh=2C but
> mataHmeH maSachnIS=2C and indeed many from TKW seem relevant here.
{ghojwI'pu'lI' tISaH} might me a bit of a stretch=2C but might it work?
QeS 'utlh
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ghItlhpu' loghaD=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B I'd like to say taHlaHbe' pagh ("A not=
hingness cannot endure")=2C or 'u' SIQlaHbe' pagh ("A nothingness cannot en=
dure the universe")=2C<br><br>Why not reverse that latter one: {pagh SIQlaH=
be' 'u'} "the universe cannot endure nothing(ness)"? I think it would be in=
terpreted as such by a Klingon=2C since I think "there is nothing the unive=
rse cannot endure" wouldn't be phrased like that=3B a Klingon would surely =
just say {Hoch SIQlaH 'u'} for that idea.<br><br>Or given that these are th=
ose damned wordy Vulcans talking=2C can we risk a {-ghach} and say {chImchu=
'taHghach} "continuing absolute emptiness" for "vacuum"?<br><br>ghItlhpu' Q=
ov=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B I would cast further than that. I don't see that "na=
ture abhors a<br><div>>=3B vacuum" is especially relevant to Spock's nepo=
tism here. He's just<br>>=3B saying that he wants there to be a successio=
n=2C and trying to<br>>=3B encapsulate it in a pithy saying. I might go w=
ith Dal pagh jagh=2C but<br>>=3B mataHmeH maSachnIS=2C and indeed many fr=
om TKW seem relevant here.<br><br>{ghojwI'pu'lI' tISaH} might me a bit of a=
stretch=2C but might it work?<br><br>QeS 'utlh<br></div> </div>=
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