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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Mon Nov 28 08:58:08 2011
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:35 -0500
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
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On 11/28/2011 8:26 AM, Gaerfindel wrote:
> My instinct is to go with {ngem yInej} for "Search (in) the forest," and
> {qawHaq nej} for "Search (in) the database." "Search the catalogue for
> the book," I'd render {mem yInej 'ej paq botu'}.
<Sam> yIlIjQo'.
The given translation of {nej} is "look for, seek, search for." That
makes a strong case that the proper object of {nej} is the thing
searched for, not what you're searching through. {mem yInej} says
"search for the catalog."
For most situations, {-Daq} will do. When you're searching a physical
book, for instance, you really are looking *in* the book. {memDaq paq
pong yInej} "search for the book's name in the catalog."
If I saw {-Daq} used with something with an abstract location, like
information in a databank, I wouldn't think twice about it. Even then
the thing searched for is actually *inside* something else. {qawHaqDaq
De' vInej} "I search for the information in the databank."
Whether {nej} is used to "query" a database is a matter best left to a
Klingon informant. I wouldn't be surprised if it were; the search
metaphor is too obvious.
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