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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gaerfindel)
Mon Nov 28 08:26:48 2011

Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:26:25 -0500
From: Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmMO1cBmCUG2SbcoHZvd95WEdDoef=gSu4NmoBUYUt464g@mail.gmail.com>
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:
 > How would I say, "Search for the targ in the forest", or "Search for
 > the record in the data banks"?  I presume the thing being searched for
 > ({targh}, {ta}) is the object of {nej}, but how do I indicate the
 > parameters of/restrictions on the search ({ngem}, {qawHaq})?

QeS 'utlh::

    Do you have a specific issue with {ngemDaq targh yInej} or {qawHaqDaq
    ta yInej}?


ghItlh De'vID:

 >I have no problem accepting {ngemDaq targh yInej}, but I wasn't sure 
about {qawHaqDaq}, or things like {tetlhDaq}, {memDaq}, {tameyDaq}, 
 >etc.  If the parameters of the search is not a physical location, is 
{-Daq} still the right suffix to use?

{MO yItlhob.}

 >Also, what if I want to leave the search target unspecified?  e.g., 
"Search (in) the forest", "Search (in) the data banks"?

 >Actually, "Search (the) database" was the idea I originally wanted to 
express, and I first wrote down {qawHaqDaq nej}, but then it seemed 
 >wrong to me when I looked at it.

vIja:
My instinct is to go with {ngem yInej} for "Search (in) the forest," and 
{qawHaq nej} for "Search (in) the database."  "Search the catalogue for 
the book," I'd render {mem yInej 'ej paq botu'}.

~quljIb



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    <div>ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:</div>
    &gt; How would I say, "Search for the targ in the forest", or
    "Search for<br>
    &gt; the record in the data banks"? &nbsp;I presume the thing being
    searched for<br>
    &gt; ({targh}, {ta}) is the object of {nej}, but how do I indicate
    the<br>
    &gt; parameters of/restrictions on the search ({ngem}, {qawHaq})?<br>
    <br>
    QeS 'utlh::&nbsp;
    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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      Do you have a specific issue with {ngemDaq targh yInej} or
      {qawHaqDaq<br>
      ta yInej}?</blockquote>
    <br>
    ghItlh De'vID:<br>
    <br>
    <div>&gt;I have no problem accepting {ngemDaq targh yInej}, but I
      wasn't sure about {qawHaqDaq}, or things like {tetlhDaq},
      {memDaq}, {tameyDaq}, &gt;etc. &nbsp;If the parameters of the search is
      not a physical location, is {-Daq} still the right suffix to use?<br>
      <br>
      {MO yItlhob.}<br>
    </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>&gt;Also, what if I want to leave the search target
      unspecified? &nbsp;e.g., "Search (in) the forest", "Search (in) the
      data banks"?</div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>&gt;Actually, "Search (the) database" was the idea I originally
      wanted to express, and I first wrote down {qawHaqDaq nej}, but
      then it seemed &gt;wrong to me when I looked at it.</div>
    <br>
    vIja:<br>
    My instinct is to go with {ngem yInej} for "Search (in) the forest,"
    and {qawHaq nej} for "Search (in) the database."&nbsp; "Search the
    catalogue for the book," I'd render {mem yInej 'ej paq botu'}.<br>
    <br>
    ~quljIb<br>
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