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Re: [Tlhingan-hol]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Mon Nov 14 15:59:56 2011
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: De'vID jonpIn <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>, KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:59:27 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPJcYJ=QQkgrw55aS5wCD8bmw0uttqWJZ=78ph0kRQVkA@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Interesting; I missed several of those words, myself.
Regarding reH, I asked Marc if one coukd say =ABSuvwI' ghaH 'e' reH puq=BB =
("The child plays that he's/she's a warrior"). He rejected that sentence, b=
ut accepted =ABSuvwI' ghaH 'e' ghet puq reHtaHvIS=BB.
He also accepted the sentence =ABmaQoch 'e' wIQochbe'=BB ("We agree to disa=
gree").
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From: De'vID jonpIn [de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 21:44
To: KLI
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] learnings from Saarbr=FCcken qepHom'a'
I've already written several messages about things we learned at the qepHom=
'a' in Saarbr=FCcken, Germany. I'll write down the rest of what I saw/hear=
d here before I forget.
I saw several new words (words new to me; they may already be known to othe=
rs):
<'IvtIH>
<rajma'>
<'eQway>
<cha'neH>
<ren>
<Qur>
<qurbuSwI'> (Morskan?)
I don't have definitions from MO for the first four words, only what I saw =
in others' notes. The words <ren>, <Qur>, and <qurbuSwI'> were defined in =
writing, but only in German, in a letter from MO. Presumably, the letter w=
as written in English, and translated into German (by Lieven?), but I have =
not seen the original. However, I've had the meanings of <ren> and <Qur> e=
xplained to me by German speakers. <qurbuSwI'> appears to be a Morskan dia=
lect word, but I didn't understand its meaning. Perhaps Lieven, or someone=
who can read the letter in German, can explain their definitions.
We also learned that the verbs <ghur> and <nup> are intransitive (the trans=
itive forms have <-moH>), and also what the difference was between the verb=
s <reH> and <Quj>. <reH> applies to unstructured play, whereas <Quj> refer=
s to structured play (with rules).
The following is not new info, but was discussed with MO at the qepHom: <So=
j> refers not just to food, but anything consumed for sustenance (i.e., "fo=
od" in a more general sense than "solid food"); <Sop>, <tlhutlh>, and <'ep>=
are verbs which can be applied to different kinds of <Soj>.
--
De'vID
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