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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Mon Nov 14 15:45:19 2011
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:44:59 +0100
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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I've already written several messages about things we learned at the
qepHom'a' in Saarbr=FCcken, Germany. I'll write down the rest of what I
saw/heard here before I forget.
I saw several new words (words new to me; they may already be known to
others):
<'IvtIH>
<rajma'>
<'eQway>
<cha'neH>
<ren>
<Qur>
<qurbuSwI'> (Morskan?)
I don't have definitions from MO for the first four words, only what I saw
in others' notes. The words <ren>, <Qur>, and <qurbuSwI'> were defined in
writing, but only in German, in a letter from MO. Presumably, the letter
was written in English, and translated into German (by Lieven?), but I have
not seen the original. However, I've had the meanings of <ren> and <Qur>
explained to me by German speakers. <qurbuSwI'> appears to be a Morskan
dialect word, but I didn't understand its meaning. Perhaps Lieven, or
someone who can read the letter in German, can explain their definitions.
We also learned that the verbs <ghur> and <nup> are intransitive (the
transitive forms have <-moH>), and also what the difference was between the
verbs <reH> and <Quj>. <reH> applies to unstructured play, whereas <Quj>
refers to structured play (with rules).
The following is not new info, but was discussed with MO at the qepHom:
<Soj> refers not just to food, but anything consumed for sustenance (i.e.,
"food" in a more general sense than "solid food"); <Sop>, <tlhutlh>, and
<'ep> are verbs which can be applied to different kinds of <Soj>.
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<div><br></div>I've already written several messages about things we le=
arned at the qepHom'a' in=A0Saarbr=FCcken, Germany. =A0I'll wri=
te down the rest of what I saw/heard here before I forget.<div><br></div><d=
iv>
I saw several new words (words new to me; they may already be known to othe=
rs):</div><div><'IvtIH></div><div><rajma'></div><div>&l=
t;'eQway></div><div><cha'neH></div><div><ren></div>
<div><Qur></div><div><qurbuSwI'> (Morskan?)</div><div><br><=
/div><div>I don't have definitions from MO for the first four words, on=
ly what I saw in others' notes. =A0The words <ren>, <Qur>, =
and <qurbuSwI'> were defined in writing, but only in German, in a=
letter from MO. =A0Presumably, the letter was written in English, and tran=
slated into German (by Lieven?), but I have not seen the original. =A0Howev=
er, I've had the meanings of <ren> and <Qur> explained to m=
e by German speakers. =A0<qurbuSwI'> appears to be a Morskan dial=
ect word, but I didn't understand its meaning. =A0Perhaps Lieven, or so=
meone who can read the letter in German, can explain their definitions.</di=
v>
<div><br></div><div>We also learned that the verbs <ghur> and <nup=
> are intransitive (the transitive forms have <-moH>), and also wh=
at the difference was between the verbs <reH> and <Quj>. =A0<=
;reH> applies to unstructured play, whereas <Quj> refers to struct=
ured play (with rules).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The following is not new info, but was discussed with M=
O at the qepHom: <Soj> refers not just to food, but anything consumed=
for sustenance (i.e., "food" in a more general sense than "=
solid food"); <Sop>, <tlhutlh>, and <'ep> are ve=
rbs which can be applied to different kinds of <Soj>.</div>
<div><div><div><br></div>-- <br>De'vID<br>
</div></div>
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