[88218] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: muD Dotlh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Aug 25 09:32:19 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:24:33 -0500
In-Reply-To: <409BEB1E-FEE6-491F-A96C-6023A8CCC63C@alcaco.net>
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"lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
> So, I want to say, "It looks like it's going to rain soon."
>
> First, I thought, {ghaytan tugh SIS.} But that uses two adverbials,
> and Okrand has never really smiled on that practice. So, then I thought,
> {tugh SISlaw'.} But that implies that soon it will appear to rain, or
> soon it will apparently rain...
ghunchu'wI':
>Does it imply that? I don't think so. {-law'} expresses a lack of
>conviction on the part of the speaker about the validity of the
>phrase. It doesn't say anything about the action itself.
Okrand on Type 6 (qualification) verb suffixes:
TKD 39: Like Type 3 noun suffixes, these suffixes show how sure the speaker is about what is being said.
>Translate it as "Apparently it will rain soon" and the confusion from
>the English phrasing goes away. To me, {tugh SISlaw'} seems exactly
>right.
Absolutely right. {-law'} "it seems (to be), apparently, seemingly, I think that, I suspect that"
TKD 40: This suffix expresses any uncertainty on the speaker's part and may even be thought of as meaning "I think" or "I suspect".
You could also say {-ba'} "obviously" depending on how confident you are:
TKD 175: This suffix is used when the speaker thinks that his or her assertion should be obvious to the listener. Nevertheless, there is still room for doubt; the suffix does not imply as strong a conviction as {-bej} "certainly".
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
