[88219] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: muD Dotlh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Aug 25 10:00:43 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:52:12 -0500
In-Reply-To: <602083.52725.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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Fiat Knox:
>How exactly would you guys phrase the response "Klingons never talk
>about insignificant things?"
{Dochmey ram} "trivial/insignificant things"
{wanI'mey ram} "unimportant events"
{ngoDHommey} "bits" (i.e. "minor facts")
Hov leng ngoDHommey
Trekbits (STC)
>I confess, the usage of the word "bop" still eludes me. Does it apply in
>this context?
Probably not. Holtej wrote in HQ 14.2-3:21:
"It was during the [qep'a' 2005] cabaret, and Krankor observed that it's difficult to really do the Hokey Pokey in Klingon without being able to say 'and that's what it's all about.' In years past, it's all sung in English, except for the actual names of the body parts. 'You put your {qIvon} in, you put your {qIvon} out...' and so on. So Marc asked Krankor, if the word, were, say {bop}, how would you use it? Krankor replied that he'd say {'e' bop} 'that's what it's all about.' To which Marc responded, 'that's what it is'." (Holtej)
Holtej's (not Okrand's) example was:
HolQeD bopbe' paqvam
this book is not all about linguistics
Note that the subject of {bop} would be the "insignificant things", not "Klingons".
Your sentence is tricky as {ja'chuq} "discuss" doesn't seem to take an object:
ja'chuqmeH rojHom neH jaghla'
The enemy commander wishes a truce (in order) to confer. TKD
maja'chuqjaj?
Can we talk? PK
'uQ wISoppu'DI' maja'chuq
We will talk after dinner. PK
If you mean Klingons never let themselves be sidetracked by indulging in trivial gossip, you might just say:
not joS tlhInganpu'
Klingons never gossip.
or even:
not DoS luchIl tlhInganpu'
Klingons never digress (lit. "lose the target").
Other verbs to consider are {qel} "take into account, consider", {buS} "concentrate on, focus on, think only about", {ngach} "debate".
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
