[88204] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon in other languages
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (MorphemeAddict)
Tue Aug 24 13:32:32 2010
In-Reply-To: <29917.65559.qm@web80503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:22:20 -0400
From: MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Russ,
The Japanese whispering of "u" (and sometimes "i") can occur after any
unvoiced consonant (k, t, p, s). The rules are probably more complicated
than that, but it definitely occurs in non-final positions.
lay'tel SIvten
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Russ Perry, Jr. <russperryjr@sbcglobal.net
> wrote:
> On Tue, 8/24/10, Terrence Donnelly wrote:
> > Also, since the 'u' sound very frequently drops out in spoken
> > Japanese, this is probably pronounced "kringon-go".
>
> I'm pretty sure the u-dropping predominantly occurs only in word-
> final positions, so "gozaimasu" will sound like "gozaimas", but
> "kuringon-go" will still sound like "kuringon-go".
>
> At the very least, the "kr" in what you wrote would NOT be the "kr"
> consonant cluster, but more like "k'r" (where the "'" is a break in
> the pronunciation, not the tlhIngan Hol glottal stop).
>
> > On Tue, 8/24/10, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Since Klingons were around long
> > > before tlhIngan Hol, the Japanese word
> > > ("kuringon-go") is almost certainly from the English
> > > "Klingon" rather than
> > > Klingon "tlhIngan".
> > > lay'tel SIvten
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In Japanese it would be pronounced phonetically
> > and
> > > written in katakana - a
> > > > character set which, like kanji, I fear I cannot
> > > reproduce here.
> > > >
> > > > The "tlh" of "tlhIngan Hol" is not pronounceable
> > as
> > > such in Japanese.
> > > > Instead, Japanese uses the closest syllables, in
> > this
> > > case "ku ri na n."
> > > >
> > > > The word for "language" is "go".
> > > >
> > > > kurinango - Klingon language
> > > >
> > > > Wish I could show you the kana and kanji.
>
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