[84653] in tlhIngan-Hol
ngoy'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rich Timpone)
Mon May 12 22:37:46 2008
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:33:48 -0400
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Rich Timpone <rtimpone@columbus.rr.com>
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I am curious if anyone has come across a translation for the concept
of responsibility.
I have been in a dialogue on the Klingon Imperial Forum regarding
this, and appreciate the assistance I have received there. I was
pointed to the KLI as the linguistic experts, and had been reviewing
the archives. I have subsequently joined and have enjoyed the
exchanges thus far, and felt it was worth posing the question for the
group on whether anyone could point to more canonical information
regarding responsibility.
In TKD, "responsible" and "to be responsible" are translated as
ngoy'. As noted in TKD, the noun and verb form of words are often
identical (i.e. ta' and yoD). While that is seen in the case with
responsible and to be responsible, I am not sure if it would extend
to the more abstract concept of responsibility. While responsibility
has multiple meanings, I am interested in the specific aspect of the
word dealing with having accountability for something, which is tied
to definitions of obligation or duty (Qu' or in slang, ghIgh)
This aspect of responsibility clearly applies to ngoy' as seen in the
quote from TKW:
vangDI' tlhIngan SuvwI' ngoy' qorDu'Daj;
vanDI' qorDu'Daj ngoy' tlhIngan SuvwI'.
I would think this may have come up in some of the other translation
efforts (or more directly in the canon) given the importance of the
concept in Klingon, but I have not been able to find it. While
variations like ngoy'wI' (one who is responsible), as well as ngoy'
or Qu', are useful, I was hoping someone could help further on
this. One recommendation offered so far was ngoy'taHghach.
Thanks,
Rich
