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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Asking "why do I need to be there ?"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Fri Feb 22 17:55:16 2019
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 23:55:00 +0100
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Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> schrieb am Fr., 22. Feb. 2019, 23:26:
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> Usually when we use pronouns as copulas in Klingon for =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=
=80=9D sentences,
> we=E2=80=99re really talking about identity (tlhIngan maH; raS 'oH; HoD g=
haH; yIH
> bIH), which is not the case in this sentence. =E2=80=9CWhy do I need to b=
e there=E2=80=9D
> is really asking why my presence is required, which is why in my Klingon
> suggestions I used jISaHnIS and vIpoQlu'.
>
Chinese also distinguishes between the "identity" and "existence" senses of
"to be". The former is =E6=98=AF ("I am a person") and the latter is =E5=9C=
=A8 ("I am
here").
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De'vID
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">Daniel Dadap <<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">daniel@dadap.net</a>> schrieb am Fr.=
, 22. Feb. 2019, 23:26:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" style=3D"direction:rtl"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Usuall=
y when we use pronouns as copulas in Klingon for =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D se=
ntences, we=E2=80=99re really talking about identity (tlhIngan maH; raS =
9;oH; HoD ghaH; yIH bIH), which is not the case in this sentence. =E2=80=9C=
Why do I need to be there=E2=80=9D is really asking why my presence is requ=
ired, which is why in my Klingon suggestions I used jISaHnIS and vIpoQlu=
9;.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">Chinese also distinguishes between the "identit=
y" and "existence" senses of "to be". The former i=
s =E6=98=AF ("I am a person") and the latter is =E5=9C=A8 ("=
I am here").=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">--=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">De'vID</div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">
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