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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Asking "why do I need to be there ?"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Dadap)
Fri Feb 22 17:26:58 2019
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:26:50 -0600
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> On Feb 22, 2019, at 15:05, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
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> Isn't there anyone here who speaks arabic, or a different languages that h=
as not to-be verb? That would interesting to find out how they do that.
Actually Arabic DOES have a verb =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D; it=E2=80=99s just n=
ot used as a copula in the present tense. (It also has a different and very i=
nteresting verb-like particle used as a negative copula.) I=E2=80=99m very r=
usty in Arabic so I=E2=80=99m not going to embarrass myself by attempting a t=
ranslation of =E2=80=9Cwhy do I need to be there=E2=80=9D in Arabic, but I d=
on=E2=80=99t really believe the =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D in this English sent=
ence truly means =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D in an existential or identity sense=
.
Usually when we use pronouns as copulas in Klingon for =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D=
sentences, we=E2=80=99re really talking about identity (tlhIngan maH; raS '=
oH; HoD ghaH; yIH bIH), which is not the case in this sentence. =E2=80=9CWhy=
do I need to be there=E2=80=9D is really asking why my presence is required=
, which is why in my Klingon suggestions I used jISaHnIS and vIpoQlu'.=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div><div di=
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tr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"direction: rtl;"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Feb 22, 2019, at 15:05, Lieven L. Litaer <<a href=3D"mailto:levini=
us@gmx.de">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr">Isn't there anyone here who speaks arabic, or a differ=
ent languages that has not to-be verb? That would interesting to find out ho=
w they do that.</div></blockquote><br><div>Actually Arabic DOES have a verb =E2=
=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D; it=E2=80=99s just not used as a copula in the present t=
ense. (It also has a different and very interesting verb-like particle used a=
s a negative copula.) I=E2=80=99m very rusty in Arabic so I=E2=80=99m not go=
ing to embarrass myself by attempting a translation of =E2=80=9Cwhy do I nee=
d to be there=E2=80=9D in Arabic, but I don=E2=80=99t really believe the =E2=
=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D in this English sentence truly means =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=
=9D in an existential or identity sense.</div><div><br></div><div>Usually wh=
en we use pronouns as copulas in Klingon for =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D sentenc=
es, we=E2=80=99re really talking about identity (tlhIngan maH; raS 'oH; HoD g=
haH; yIH bIH), which is not the case in this sentence. =E2=80=9CWhy do I nee=
d to be there=E2=80=9D is really asking why my presence is required, which i=
s why in my Klingon suggestions I used jISaHnIS and vIpoQlu'.</div></div></d=
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