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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] pronouns and {-chuq}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Oct 27 04:20:49 2017
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:13:12 -0400
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I was saying that pronouns are not verbs. They use verb suffixes when they =
act in =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D sentences as described in TKD 6.3. A single =
pronoun cannot form a =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D sentence all by itself, so yo=
u can=E2=80=99t just throw a tlhIHchuq in somewhere and expect it to make a=
ny sense.
Stop thinking of pronouns as verbs.
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SuStel
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From: David Holt
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:30 PM
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] pronouns and {-chuq}
jatlh Quvar:
>> For example if I say:
>>=C2=A0
>> {jIHmo' SupvIp vIghro'}
>> because of me the cat is afraid to jump
>>=20
>> It is wrong ?
>No, because here, it's a noun suffix.
But you could also say, {SuvwI' jIHmo' SupvIp vIghro'} "Because I am a warr=
ior the cat is afraid to jump."=C2=A0 I'm certain that what SuStel meant wa=
s that when you are using a pronoun as the verb "to be" it cannot take noun=
suffixes since it is acting as a verb and not as a noun.=C2=A0 Which is ba=
sically what my first response was also getting at. =20
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I was saying that pronouns are not v=
erbs. They use verb suffixes when they act in =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D sente=
nces as described in TKD 6.3. A single pronoun cannot form a =E2=80=9Cto be=
=E2=80=9D sentence all by itself, so you can=E2=80=99t just throw a <b>tlhI=
Hchuq</b> in somewhere and expect it to make any sense.</p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Stop thinking of pronouns as=
verbs.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>-=
- <br>SuStel<br>http://trimboli.name</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o=
:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:sol=
id #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'b=
order:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:kenjutsuka@live.com"=
>David Holt</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:30 PM<br><b>T=
o: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br>=
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [tlhIngan Hol] pronouns and {-chuq}</p></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>jatlh Quvar:</p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> For exa=
mple if I say:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> </p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>>> {jIHmo' SupvIp vIghro'}</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> becaus=
e of me the cat is afraid to jump</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> </p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>>> It is wrong ?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>No, because here, it's a noun suffix.</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>But you cou=
ld also say, {SuvwI' jIHmo' SupvIp vIghro'} "Because I am a warrior th=
e cat is afraid to jump." I'm certain that what SuStel meant was=
that when you are using a pronoun as the verb "to be" it cannot =
take noun suffixes since it is acting as a verb and not as a noun. Wh=
ich is basically what my first response was also getting at.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>______________________________________________=
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