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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Nouns in apposition
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Thu Sep 21 04:11:45 2017
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From: Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard@btinternet.com>
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If in speech there is a special tone to show when {X Y} means "Y which is X" and not "Y of X", it may (ask Okrand) be an idea to put a mark between the words to show this in writing, as in the book name "paq'batlh".
----Original message----
From : sustel@trimboli.name
On 9/20/2017 11:48 AM, Anthony Appleyard wrote:
> Basically, if X and Y are nouns, when does "X Y" mean "X's Y", "Y of
> X", and when it is an apposition? In the old days I used to write "X
> 'oHbogh Y" for "X which is Y".
>
> How would I translate "Maltz's captain" and "Captain Maltz"
> distinctively? It seems that {matlh HoD} could mean both.
Context, tone of voice, waggling of eyebrows. There is no way to tell
them apart strictly through their grammar.
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