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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -meH nouns
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Thu Aug 31 03:16:10 2017
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From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 06:11:08 +0200
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On Aug 30, 2017 23:09, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 30.08.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Steven Boozer:
> I=E2=80=99m not quite sure I understand what Lieven=E2=80=99s FaceBook cr=
itic meant by
> =E2=80=9Csome kind of tool=E2=80=9D, but here are a few purpose clauses t=
hat probably don=E2=80=99t
> =E2=80=93 depending on how you analyze them - involve =E2=80=9Cpurpose no=
uns=E2=80=9D:
I'm not sure what Lieven means by "tool" since a {rojHom} isn't a tool.
There are plenty of purpose clauses modifying nouns which aren't tools.
Very often, there are two ways to interpet such constructions, for instance
*Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huch 'ar DaneH*
>
I'm sure this is not {DIlmeH Huch} but a separate phrase {Dochvetlh DIlmeH}
+ {Huch 'ar DaneH}
Really? I think this is {[Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huch] 'ar DaneH?} and not
*{Dochvetlh DIlmeH, Huch 'ar DaneH?}, because in the latter case, I'd
expect {Dochvetlh vIDIlmeH, Huch 'ar DaneH?}
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De'vID
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Aug 30, 2017 23:09, "Lieven" <<a href=3D"mailto:l=
evinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br type=3D=
"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"m_-6241589768112416006quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"=
m_-6241589768112416006quoted-text">Am 30.08.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Steven Bo=
ozer:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I=E2=80=99m not quite sure I understand what Lieven=E2=80=99s FaceBook crit=
ic meant by =E2=80=9Csome kind of tool=E2=80=9D, but here are a few purpose=
clauses that probably don=E2=80=99t =E2=80=93 depending on how you analyze=
them - involve =E2=80=9Cpurpose nouns=E2=80=9D:</blockquote></div></blockq=
uote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I'=
m not sure what Lieven means by "tool" since a {rojHom} isn't=
a tool. There are plenty of purpose clauses modifying nouns which aren'=
;t tools.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"m_-62415=
89768112416006quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
Very often, there are two ways to interpet such constructions, for instance=
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
*Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huch 'ar DaneH*<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I'm sure this is not {DIlmeH Huch} but a separate phrase {Dochvetlh DIl=
meH} + {Huch 'ar DaneH}</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Really? I think this is {[Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huc=
h] 'ar DaneH?} and not *{Dochvetlh DIlmeH, Huch 'ar DaneH?}, becaus=
e in the latter case, I'd expect {Dochvetlh vIDIlmeH, Huch 'ar Dane=
H?}</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">--=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">De'vID</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"m_-62=
41589768112416006quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
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