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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -meH nouns
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Thu Aug 31 03:11:09 2017
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From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 07:53:01 +0200
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Am 31.08.2017 um 06:11 schrieb De'vID:
> I'm not sure what Lieven means by "tool" since a {rojHom} isn't a tool.
> There are plenty of purpose clauses modifying nouns which aren't tools.
It's maybe not a tool you can grab with your hand, but the point was
that in the phrase {ja'chuqmeH rojHom}, the {rojHom} has a purpose. Its
"purpose" is to make talking possible.
In {DIlmeH Huch} the "purpose" of the money is to pay.
In {pe'meH taj} the "purpose" of the knife is to cut.
When I say {SuvmeH meq} "reason for fighting", the {meq} is not the
"purpose" for fighting. That's what they told me. I'm still in doubt if
I'm just misusing this construction, taking it too literally.
> Really? I think this is {[Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huch] 'ar DaneH?} and not
> *{Dochvetlh DIlmeH, Huch 'ar DaneH?}, because in the latter case, I'd
> expect {Dochvetlh vIDIlmeH, Huch 'ar DaneH?}
Good point.
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Lieven L. Litaer
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