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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Referring to the entire preceding passage
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Aug 18 09:39:00 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:38:56 +0300
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SuStel:
> I find myself preferring *chay' bISov?*
With regards to the options of {chay' DaSov ?} and {chay' 'e' DaSov ?).
If you were asked "how would you characterize them ?", then would you say
"they are wrong", "they are unacceptable", "they don't make sense", or "we
don't know whether we can use them" ?
qunnoq
On Aug 18, 2017 4:26 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 8/18/2017 8:56 AM, Lieven wrote:
Am 18.08.2017 um 14:43 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
As soon as he finishes his speech/passage, another person wants to ask him
"how do you know it (this fact) ?
Would it be correct for him to say {chay' DaSov ?} And by the use of the
prefix {Da-} the {Sov} having as an elided object the entire preceding
speech/passage ?
Good question. I have three answers to this, with grades of correctness.
a) I would accept {chay' DaSov} with no objection, but I have no evidence
this is correct.
b) Taken the book, there is a way to refer to a previous sentence, maybe
{chay' 'e' DaSov}, but this maybe wrong.
c) To be on a very clean grammatical track, I would suggest to say what you
even used in your question:
{chay' ngoDvetlh DaSov?}
"How do you know that fact?"
I find myself preferring *chay' bISov?*
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<div dir=3D"auto">SuStel:<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">I find myself preferring=C2=A0</span><b=
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">chay' bISov?</b></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">With regards to the optio=
ns of {chay' DaSov ?} and {chay' 'e' DaSov ?).</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you were asked "how would yo=
u characterize them ?", then would you say "they are wrong",=
"they are unacceptable", "they don't make sense", =
or "we don't know whether we can use them" ?</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 18, 2017 4:26 PM, "SuStel" <<a href=3D=
"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div class=3D"quoted-text">
<div class=3D"m_-7805434570344634603moz-cite-prefix">On 8/18/2017 8:56 =
AM, Lieven wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Am
18.08.2017 um 14:43 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"color:#000000">As soon as he
finishes his speech/passage, another person wants to ask him
"how do you know it (this fact) ?
<br>
<br>
Would it be correct for him to say {chay' DaSov ?} And by the
use of the prefix {Da-} the {Sov} having as an elided object the
entire preceding speech/passage ?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Good question. I have three answers to this, with grades of
correctness.
<br>
<br>
a) I would accept {chay' DaSov} with no objection, but I have no
evidence this is correct.
<br>
<br>
b) Taken the book, there is a way to refer to a previous sentence,
maybe {chay' 'e' DaSov}, but this maybe wrong.
<br>
<br>
c) To be on a very clean grammatical track, I would suggest to say
what you even used in your question:
<br>
=C2=A0 {chay' ngoDvetlh DaSov?}
<br>
=C2=A0 "How do you know that fact?"
</blockquote>
</div><p>I find myself preferring <b>chay' bISov?</b><font color=3D=
"#888888"><br>
</font></p><font color=3D"#888888">
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SuStel
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