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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Who does {-oy} show endearment to
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Thu Aug 17 11:31:57 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:31:53 -0400
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On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:11 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> SuStel:
> > An exception=E2=80=94at least in English=E2=80=94would be if person A
> > used an endearment of person B while talking to person C;
> > person C would be justified in repeating the endearment, as > it is in
> the context of being what person A would say.
> > A: *choHIvchugh vavoywI' vIja'!*
> > C: *vavoylI' Daja'chugh qaHIvqa'.*
>
> However the question remains..
>
> A uses an endearment of person B while talking to person C; person C
> repeats the endearment.
>
> Is there a possibility that person C, in his effort to recreate what
> person A would say, is actually showing endearment too toward person B ?
> Perhaps even if he doesn't want to ?
>
Repeating a term of endearment that's been introduced into the conversation
doesn't necessarily mean you also feel that endearment. If a small child
comes up to me at a large gathering and asks {SoSoywI' Daleghpu''a'?} "Have
you seen my mommy?" and I reply {jISovbe'. SoSoylI' yIDel.} "I don't know.
What's your mommy look like?", I'm not expressing endearment for the
child's mother. I'm merely repeating the term they've already used to refer
to her. If I were worried about inappropriately showing endearment towards
the child's mother, I would just not repeat the {-oy}: {jISovbe'. SoSlI'
yIDel.}
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:11 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a=
>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">SuStel:<span class=3D"gmail-"><div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<=
span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">An exception=E2=80=
=94at least in English=E2=80=94would be if person A=C2=A0</span></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">>=
used=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"=
>an endearment of person B while talking to person C;=C2=A0</span></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&g=
t; person C would be justified in repeating the endearment, as > it is i=
n the context of being what person A would say.</span></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> A:=C2=A0<=
/span><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">choHIvchugh va=
voywI' vIja'!</b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> C:=C2=A0</span><b style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">vavoylI' Daja'chugh qaHIvqa'.</=
b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.6=
96px"><br></b></div></span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif;font-size:13.696px">However the question remains..</span><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"=
><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13.696px">A uses an endearment of person B while talking to person=
C; person C repeats the endearment.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Is there a possibili=
ty that person C, in his effort to recreate what person A would say, is act=
ually showing endearment too toward person B ? Perhaps even if he doesn'=
;t want to ?</span><br></div></div></blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Repea=
ting a term of endearment that's been introduced into the conversation =
doesn't necessarily mean you also feel that endearment. If a small chil=
d comes up to me at a large gathering and asks {SoSoywI' Daleghpu'&=
#39;a'?} "Have you seen my mommy?" and I reply {jISovbe'.=
SoSoylI' yIDel.} "I don't know. What's your mommy look li=
ke?", I'm not expressing endearment for the child's mother. I&=
#39;m merely repeating the term they've already used to refer to her. I=
f I were worried about inappropriately showing endearment towards the child=
's mother, I would just not repeat the {-oy}: {jISovbe'. SoSlI'=
yIDel.}</div><div><br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>=C2=
=A0</div></div><br></div></div>
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