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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Who does {-oy} show endearment to
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 17 11:29:29 2017
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:28:54 -0400
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On 8/17/2017 11:11 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> SuStel:
> > An exception—at least in English—would be if person A
> > used an endearment of person B while talking to person C;
> > person C would be justified in repeating the endearment, as > it is in the
> context of being what person A would say.
> > A: *choHIvchugh vavoywI' vIja'!*
> > C: *vavoylI' Daja'chugh qaHIvqa'.*
> *
> *
> However the question remains..
>
> A uses an endearment of person B while talking to person C; person C
> repeats the endearment.
>
> Is there a possibility that person C, in his effort to recreate what
> person A would say, is actually showing endearment too toward person B
> ? Perhaps even if he doesn't want to ?
>
> Of course, in the above "if you attack me" example, context makes it
> difficult for person C to be actually showing endearment himself
> toward the father of A.
>
> But what if we didn't have a "negative" example ? What if instead of
> the {choHIvchugh} we had {choQaHchugh} ? Couldn't it here be possible
> of an endearment being expressed from C, toward the "daddy" of A ?
Dunno. I was illustrating an exception that occurs in English, but we
don't know if it happens in Klingon.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2017 11:11 AM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2c+CKFhhBosrC2g=0WKzAhSPQKnE4je+_Bb29g9J6hgg5A@mail.gmail.com">SuStel:
<div dir="auto">> <span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">An
exception—at least in English—would be if person A </span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> used </span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">an
endearment of person B while talking to person C; </span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> person
C would be justified in repeating the endearment, as > it
is in the context of being what person A would say.</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> A: </span><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">choHIvchugh
vavoywI' vIja'!</b></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> C: </span><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">vavoylI'
Daja'chugh qaHIvqa'.</b></div>
<div dir="auto"><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</b></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">However the
question remains..</span><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">A uses an
endearment of person B while talking to person C; person C
repeats the endearment.</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Is there a
possibility that person C, in his effort to recreate what
person A would say, is actually showing endearment too toward
person B ? Perhaps even if he doesn't want to ?</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Of course,
in the above "if you attack me" example, context makes it
difficult for person C to be actually showing endearment
himself toward the father of A.</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">But what if
we didn't have a "negative" example ? What if instead of the
{choHIvchugh} we had {choQaHchugh} ? Couldn't it here be
possible of an endearment being expressed from C, toward the
"daddy" of A ?</span></div>
</blockquote>
<p>Dunno. I was illustrating an exception that occurs in English,
but we don't know if it happens in Klingon.<br>
</p>
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SuStel
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