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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] We got words for a Spiral,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Wed Aug 9 09:27:41 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:27:36 +0300
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Is there any chance that 'oqranD, by saying the "beyond X", was describing
an exception with regards to the use of {Hay}, as compared with the rest of
the similar nouns ? (Dung, bIngDaq, retlh, etc..)
Because I too (or is it "me too" ?), would use the {Hay} exactly as you
did, i.e. placing it last. But this quote from 'oqranD makes me wonder,
whether there is here an exception at work.
qunnoq
On 9 Aug 2017 4:19 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 8/9/2017 8:33 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> SuStel:
> > I'd probably do this as *Nibia** maSmey HayDaq** to the area *
> *> beyond Nibia's moons.*
>
> At the notes given at the last qep'a', the {Hay} was explained as
> "normally used with a point of reference "beyond X"".
>
> So, why did you write {nibia maSmey HayDaq} instead of {Hay nibia
> maSmeyDaq} ?
>
> Because *Nibia maSmey HayDaq* means *at the area beyond the moons of
> Nibia* in exactly the same way that *Nibia **maSmey retlhDaq* means *at
> the area next to the moons of Nibia.* "Nibia's moons' area beyond."
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is there any chance that 'oqranD, by saying the "=
;beyond X", was describing an exception with regards to the use of {Ha=
y}, as compared with the rest of the similar nouns ? (Dung, bIngDaq, retlh,=
etc..)<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Because I too (or is i=
t "me too" ?), would use the {Hay} exactly as you did, i.e. placi=
ng it last. But this quote from 'oqranD makes me wonder, whether there =
is here an exception at work.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On 9 Aug 2017 4:19 pm, "SuStel" <<a href=3D"mailto:sust=
el@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attributio=
n"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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=20
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<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
<div class=3D"m_-559735675597549412moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 8:33 AM=
, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">SuStel:
<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13.696px">I'd probably
do this as=C2=A0</span><i style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13.696px"><b>Nibia</b></i><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:1=
3.696px">=C2=A0maSmey
HayDaq</b><i style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">=
=C2=A0to
the area=C2=A0</i></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><i style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696=
px">> beyond
Nibia's moons.</i></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">At the notes
given at the last qep'a', the {Hay} was explained as &quo=
t;normally
used with a point of reference "beyond X"".</span>=
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">So, why did
you write {nibia maSmey HayDaq} instead of {Hay nibia
maSmeyDaq} ?</span></div>
</blockquote>
<p>Because <b><i>Nibia</i> maSmey HayDaq</b> means <i>at the area
beyond the moons of Nibia</i> in exactly the same way that <i><b>Ni=
bia
</b></i><b>maSmey retlhDaq</b> means <i>at the area next to the
moons of Nibia.</i> "Nibia's moons' area beyond."=
<br>
</p>
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