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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] We got words for a Spiral,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Aug 9 09:35:10 2017

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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 09:34:35 -0400
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On 8/9/2017 9:27 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> Is there any chance that 'oqranD, by saying the "beyond X", was 
> describing an exception with regards to the use of {Hay}, as compared 
> with the rest of the similar nouns ? (Dung, bIngDaq, retlh, etc..)
>
> Because I too (or is it "me too" ?), would use the {Hay} exactly as 
> you did, i.e. placing it last. But this quote from 'oqranD makes me 
> wonder, whether there is here an exception at work.

/I too./

I think he was just explaining how area nouns work, in case we weren't 
sure or were thinking the word was an adjective. Maybe *Hay* is more 
restrictive than other area nouns: sometimes you might use the word 
*DungDaq* to mean /upward,/ but Okrand might be saying that you don't 
use *Hay* all by itself; you wouldn't say *HayDaq* to mean an 
unspecified /to the beyond./

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 9:27 AM, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cJExYaGNtwYYPzdZ_anEswGU5QJgTZvugGyxjjQnno32Q@mail.gmail.com">Is
      there any chance that 'oqranD, by saying the "beyond X", was
      describing an exception with regards to the use of {Hay}, as
      compared with the rest of the similar nouns ? (Dung, bIngDaq,
      retlh, etc..)
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Because I too (or is it "me too" ?), would use the
        {Hay} exactly as you did, i.e. placing it last. But this quote
        from 'oqranD makes me wonder, whether there is here an exception
        at work.</div>
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    <p><i>I too.</i></p>
    <p>I think he was just explaining how area nouns work, in case we
      weren't sure or were thinking the word was an adjective. Maybe <b>Hay</b>
      is more restrictive than other area nouns: sometimes you might use
      the word <b>DungDaq</b> to mean <i>upward,</i> but Okrand might
      be saying that you don't use <b>Hay</b> all by itself; you
      wouldn't say <b>HayDaq</b> to mean an unspecified <i>to the beyond.</i></p>
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