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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Mar 21 14:50:44 2017
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On 3/21/2017 2:43 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
> For “sail” I’ve always used *{joqwI''a'} – a MUCH bigger version of a
> {joqwI’} “flab, banner”.
>
> (Lieven < MO, 1/09/2012): {tlhIm} is commonly used for a fabric wall
> hanging (that might, for example, have a picture of the Klingon emblem
> on it). If a piece of cloth is displayed at the end of a pole, it is
> considered a {joqwI'} ("flag"); a {tlhIm} covers some sort of surface.
>
> I don’t know if this covers things hanging down from a horizontal pole
> or out from a diagonal pole. His point here seems to be that {joqwI’}
> are not hung on a wall. Okrand has related {joq} with sails:
>
> (HQ 10.4): when a banner or sail flaps, the correct word to use is
> {joq} “flap, flutter, wave."
>
Well sure, but a sail is not doing its job if it's *joq*ing.
Purely as original imagery—that is, I'm not suggesting this is THE
word—I think of *SuS jonwI'* /wind catcher./ If you want to be more
specific, *vo'meH SuS jonwI'*/wind catcher for propulsion./
Ooh! Ooh! How about *vo'meH vol* /sheet for propulsion/?
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2017 2:43 PM, Steven Boozer
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">For
“sail” I’ve always used *{joqwI''a'} – a MUCH bigger version
of a {joqwI’} “flab, banner”.
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">(Lieven
< MO, 1/09/2012): {tlhIm} is commonly used for a fabric
wall hanging (that might, for example, have a picture of the
Klingon emblem on it). If a piece of cloth is displayed at the
end of a pole, it is considered a {joqwI'} ("flag"); a {tlhIm}
covers some sort of surface.<br>
<br>
I don’t know if this covers things hanging down from a
horizontal pole or out from a diagonal pole. His point here
seems to be that {joqwI’} are not hung on a wall. Okrand has
related {joq} with sails:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">(HQ
10.4): when a banner or sail flaps, the correct word to use
is {joq} “flap, flutter, wave."</span></p>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>Well sure, but a sail is not doing its job if it's <b>joq</b>ing.</p>
<p>Purely as original imagery—that is, I'm not suggesting this is
THE word—I think of <b>SuS jonwI'</b> <i>wind catcher.</i> If
you want to be more specific, <b>vo'meH SuS jonwI'</b><i> wind catcher
for propulsion.</i></p>
<p>Ooh! Ooh! How about <b>vo'meH vol</b> <i>sheet for propulsion</i>?<br>
</p>
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