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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Tue Dec 27 14:45:36 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:45:33 +0200
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I see.. so if instead of the {DIS law'}, we had lets say {wa'maH DIS}, then
we could omit the {qaStaHvIS}, and just write {wa'maH DIS, ghoghwIj HablI'
wab 'aqroS patlh vI'lo'}, right ?
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'
On 27 Dec 2016 9:38 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 12/27/2016 2:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
>
> if I want to say "for many years, I have my phone's sound level set at
> maximum", then there are two options:
>
> {DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
> or
> {qaStaHvIS DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
>
> if I understand correctly what was said so far, then at this example the
> {qaStaHvIS} is unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
> necessary, right ?
>
>
> No. In this case you need the *qaStaHvIS,* because *DIS law'* is only a
> time period, not a time stamp. It tells you a duration; it does not
> pinpoint a moment.
>
> You could say *ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab patlh vIlo'* but that
> would mean *many years ago I used my phone's maximum sound level,* but
> that doesn't tell us anything about how long you did this.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I see.. so if instead of the {DIS law'}, we had lets =
say {wa'maH DIS}, then we could omit the {qaStaHvIS}, and just write {w=
a'maH DIS, ghoghwIj HablI' wab 'aqroS patlh vI'lo'}, ri=
ght ?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>g=
hoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br>SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojm=
oHta'mo' Satlho'</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 27 Dec 2016 9:38 pm, "SuStel" <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br t=
ype=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=3D"m_8689908827183668638moz-cite-prefix">On 12/27/2016 2:24 =
PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">if I want to say "for many years, I have my
phone's sound level set at maximum", then there are two op=
tions:</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqro=
S patlh
vIlo'}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">or</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{qaStaHvIS DIS law',=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-f=
amily:sans-serif">ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS
patlh vIlo'}</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif">if I understand correctly
what was said so far, then at this example the {qaStaHvIS} is
unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
necessary, right ?</font></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>No. In this case you need the <b>qaStaHvIS,</b> because <b>DIS
law'</b> is only a time period, not a time stamp. It tells you =
a
duration; it does not pinpoint a moment.</p>
<p>You could say <b>ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab pat=
lh vIlo'</b>
but that would mean <i>many years ago I used my phone's maximum
sound level,</i> but that doesn't tell us anything about how
long you did this.<br>
</p>
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