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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Tue Dec 27 14:50:23 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:50:19 +0200
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ok, scratch that. even with the {wa'maH DIS} we would need the {qaStaHvIS}.
however, if I wrote {wa'maH DIS vorgh} then the {qaStaHvIS} would be
unnecessary, right ?
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'
On 27 Dec 2016 9:45 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see.. so if instead of the {DIS law'}, we had lets say {wa'maH DIS},
> then we could omit the {qaStaHvIS}, and just write {wa'maH DIS, ghoghwIj
> HablI' wab 'aqroS patlh vI'lo'}, right ?
>
> qunnoH jan puqloD
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
> SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'
>
> On 27 Dec 2016 9:38 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>
>> On 12/27/2016 2:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>>
>> if I want to say "for many years, I have my phone's sound level set at
>> maximum", then there are two options:
>>
>> {DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
>> or
>> {qaStaHvIS DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
>>
>> if I understand correctly what was said so far, then at this example the
>> {qaStaHvIS} is unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
>> necessary, right ?
>>
>>
>> No. In this case you need the *qaStaHvIS,* because *DIS law'* is only a
>> time period, not a time stamp. It tells you a duration; it does not
>> pinpoint a moment.
>>
>> You could say *ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab patlh vIlo'* but that
>> would mean *many years ago I used my phone's maximum sound level,* but
>> that doesn't tell us anything about how long you did this.
>>
>> --
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<div dir=3D"auto">ok, scratch that. even with the {wa'maH DIS} we would=
need the {qaStaHvIS}.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">however=
, if I wrote {wa'maH DIS vorgh} then the {qaStaHvIS} would be unnecessa=
ry, right ?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">qun=
noH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br>SuvwI'pu&=
#39;qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'</div></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 27 Dec 2016 9:45 pm, &qu=
ot;mayqel qunenoS" <<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gm=
ail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"auto">I see.. so if instead of the {DIS law'}, we had le=
ts say {wa'maH DIS}, then we could omit the {qaStaHvIS}, and just write=
{wa'maH DIS, ghoghwIj HablI' wab 'aqroS patlh vI'lo'},=
right ?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">qunnoH jan puqloD<b=
r>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br>SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tugh=
ojmoHta'mo' Satlho'</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 27 Dec 2016 9:38 pm, "SuStel" <<a=
href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trimboli.nam=
e</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=3D"m_-5935493740872457232m_8689908827183668638moz-cite-prefi=
x">On 12/27/2016 2:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">if I want to say "for many years, I have my
phone's sound level set at maximum", then there are two op=
tions:</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqro=
S patlh
vIlo'}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">or</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{qaStaHvIS DIS law',=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-f=
amily:sans-serif">ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS
patlh vIlo'}</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif">if I understand correctly
what was said so far, then at this example the {qaStaHvIS} is
unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
necessary, right ?</font></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>No. In this case you need the <b>qaStaHvIS,</b> because <b>DIS
law'</b> is only a time period, not a time stamp. It tells you =
a
duration; it does not pinpoint a moment.</p>
<p>You could say <b>ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab pat=
lh vIlo'</b>
but that would mean <i>many years ago I used my phone's maximum
sound level,</i> but that doesn't tell us anything about how
long you did this.<br>
</p>
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