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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Dec 27 14:38:39 2016
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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:38:05 -0500
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On 12/27/2016 2:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> if I want to say "for many years, I have my phone's sound level set at
> maximum", then there are two options:
>
> {DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
> or
> {qaStaHvIS DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
>
> if I understand correctly what was said so far, then at this example
> the {qaStaHvIS} is unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but
> it isn't necessary, right ?
No. In this case you need the *qaStaHvIS,* because *DIS law'* is only a
time period, not a time stamp. It tells you a duration; it does not
pinpoint a moment.
You could say *ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab patlh vIlo'* but that
would mean /many years ago I used my phone's maximum sound level,/ but
that doesn't tell us anything about how long you did this.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/27/2016 2:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cKw-EnZczEEK5RQO+6gDg-e554eR8h2bnuU=FsKw7_jsQ@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="auto">if I want to say "for many years, I have my
phone's sound level set at maximum", then there are two options:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">{DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh
vIlo'}</div>
<div dir="auto">or</div>
<div dir="auto">{qaStaHvIS DIS law', <span
style="font-family:sans-serif">ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS
patlh vIlo'}</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">if I understand correctly
what was said so far, then at this example the {qaStaHvIS} is
unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
necessary, right ?</font></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>No. In this case you need the <b>qaStaHvIS,</b> because <b>DIS
law'</b> is only a time period, not a time stamp. It tells you a
duration; it does not pinpoint a moment.</p>
<p>You could say <b>ben law' ghogh HablI'wIj 'aqroS wab patlh vIlo'</b>
but that would mean <i>many years ago I used my phone's maximum
sound level,</i> but that doesn't tell us anything about how
long you did this.<br>
</p>
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