[102265] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Tlhingan-hol Digest, Vol 51, Issue 91
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Harness)
Thu Nov 12 14:20:34 2015
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:20:18 -0600
From: "John R. Harness" <cartweel@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Savan, jatlhwI'pu'!
'arHa jIH, 'ej ChicagoDaq tlhIngan Hol ghojwI' jIH! DaH, taghwI'vaD Hol
vIghojmoHqangqu', 'ej vIghojmoHrup! qaStaHvIS qep'a' cha'maH cha'DIch, Hol
HaDtaHghach Delbogh muchHom vImuchpu'. HISlaH, ben law' ChicagoDaq qepHom
vIchenmoH (janSIy je!), 'ach DaH qepHom tu'lu'be.
I'm excited to take on the role! I think that I am at the right stage in my
Klingon learning that this could press me toward greater fluency and rules
mastery!
N.B.: pongwIj 'emDaq, qaghwI' tu'lu'be'. At first I spelled it that way,
but conversationally it dropped. Also, it makes me look less like I am
not-quite-having-how-many? of something.
'arHa
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 03:48:55 +0000
> From: "d'Armond Speers, Ph.D." <speersd@georgetown.edu>
> To: tlhIngan-Hol List <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] New Beginner's Grammarian
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> Many (too many) years ago when the KLBC was in its heyday, I was serving as
> one of the list administrators. In order to make the KLBC and the process
> used to select someone for the rotating post of Beginner's Grammarian as
> fair and transparent as possible we wrote up a selection process and shared
> it to the community, encouraging interested parties to volunteer. I would
> facilitate the selection process and at the conclusion, announce to the
> list the new BG. In gracious deference to protocol and nostalgia, even
> though I am no longer a list administrator (and in fact, am so seldom
> active on the list that many people may not even recognize me anymore), Qes
> 'utlh has invited me to introduce our new BG, 'arHa'.
>
> Congratulations 'arHa'!
>
> Several list members expressed interest and were considered. All were
> excellent candidates, and each would have done well, but in the end only
> one can be selected. It is my hope that the restarting of the KLBC catches
> on, and when next we pass the torch, those not selected this time reapply.
> We thank everyone for their interest and willingness to contribute through
> their service!
>
> As a reminder, the KLBC is meant to provide a forum within the mailing list
> for someone who is learning Klingon to post and receive direct, supportive
> feedback and instruction from a skilled speaker dedicated to helping
> beginners, without a deluge of (often confusing or contradictory) advice,
> sparking off heated discussions of how they got something wrong, or complex
> responses in Klingon well above the beginner's level. The rules are
> simple: 1) to participate, start your e-mail's subject with "KLBC: "; this
> will get the BG's attention and is a formal request for the message to be
> treated under the framework of the KLBC; and 2) list members are asked to
> refrain from commenting on the grammar of the post until the BG has
> responded first (though anyone can reply to the content, in Klingon). Once
> the BG has responded, others are invited to comment as well. This is not
> to discourage anyone's participation or contribution, but rather to provide
> a more inviting, less intimidating atmosphere for a beginner who might
> otherwise not be comfortable putting their efforts out there.
>
> At this point I have two requests:
>
> 1) If you are a relative beginner with the language who might like to take
> advantage of the protocols of the KLBC, even if you've been on the list for
> a while, take a few minutes to write a post to the KLBC, in Klingon. It
> can be about anything, but if you're looking for ideas, start with a simple
> introduction. Tell us your name, where you live, how old you are, anything
> that will start a conversation and allow you to practice your Klingon.
>
> 2) 'arHa', as the new BG, please take this opportunity to tell us a little
> about yourself as well, your interest in Klingon and how you view the
> restarting of the KLBC. You will shortly become one of the most prolific
> posters to the mailing list! I know you have been here for several years,
> and I know you used to hold a semi-regular qepHom; do you still do this?
> Curious Klingons want to know. :)
>
> And finally, I would like to thank QeS 'utlh for undertaking the restarting
> of the KLBC after all this time, for his excellent approach to seeking
> input on the process, reaching out to the list membership, reviewing
> candidates and making what I am sure will be an excellent selection. A
> mighty {qatlho'} to you sir!
>
> Again, congratulations 'arHa'! Let the conversations begin!
>
> --Holtej
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Savan, jatlhwI'pu'!<div><br></div><div>'arHa j=
IH, 'ej ChicagoDaq tlhIngan Hol ghojwI' jIH! DaH, taghwI'vaD Ho=
l vIghojmoHqangqu', 'ej vIghojmoHrup! qaStaHvIS qep'a' cha&=
#39;maH cha'DIch, Hol HaDtaHghach Delbogh muchHom vImuchpu'. HISlaH=
, ben law' ChicagoDaq qepHom vIchenmoH (janSIy je!), 'ach DaH qepHo=
m tu'lu'be.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm excited to take on the=
role! I think that I am at the right stage in my Klingon learning that thi=
s could press me toward greater fluency and rules mastery!</div><div><br></=
div><div>N.B.: pongwIj 'emDaq, qaghwI' tu'lu'be'. At fi=
rst I spelled it that way, but conversationally it dropped. Also, it makes =
me look less like I am not-quite-having-how-many? of something.</div><div><=
br></div><div>'arHa</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 03:48:55 +0000<br>
From: "d'Armond Speers, Ph.D." <<a href=3D"mailto:speersd@=
georgetown.edu">speersd@georgetown.edu</a>><br>
To: tlhIngan-Hol List <<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org">tlhingan-=
hol@kli.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] New Beginner's Grammarian<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <CALN+49azy8uYkRsRJ4NGkmPn=3D<a href=3D"mail=
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<br>
Many (too many) years ago when the KLBC was in its heyday, I was serving as=
<br>
one of the list administrators.=C2=A0 In order to make the KLBC and the pro=
cess<br>
used to select someone for the rotating post of Beginner's Grammarian a=
s<br>
fair and transparent as possible we wrote up a selection process and shared=
<br>
it to the community, encouraging interested parties to volunteer.=C2=A0 I w=
ould<br>
facilitate the selection process and at the conclusion, announce to the<br>
list the new BG.=C2=A0 In gracious deference to protocol and nostalgia, eve=
n<br>
though I am no longer a list administrator (and in fact, am so seldom<br>
active on the list that many people may not even recognize me anymore), Qes=
<br>
'utlh has invited me to introduce our new BG, 'arHa'.<br>
<br>
Congratulations 'arHa'!<br>
<br>
Several list members expressed interest and were considered.=C2=A0 All were=
<br>
excellent candidates, and each would have done well, but in the end only<br=
>
one can be selected.=C2=A0 It is my hope that the restarting of the KLBC ca=
tches<br>
on, and when next we pass the torch, those not selected this time reapply.<=
br>
We thank everyone for their interest and willingness to contribute through<=
br>
their service!<br>
<br>
As a reminder, the KLBC is meant to provide a forum within the mailing list=
<br>
for someone who is learning Klingon to post and receive direct, supportive<=
br>
feedback and instruction from a skilled speaker dedicated to helping<br>
beginners, without a deluge of (often confusing or contradictory) advice,<b=
r>
sparking off heated discussions of how they got something wrong, or complex=
<br>
responses in Klingon well above the beginner's level.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The r=
ules are<br>
simple: 1) to participate, start your e-mail's subject with "KLBC:=
"; this<br>
will get the BG's attention and is a formal request for the message to =
be<br>
treated under the framework of the KLBC; and 2) list members are asked to<b=
r>
refrain from commenting on the grammar of the post until the BG has<br>
responded first (though anyone can reply to the content, in Klingon). Once<=
br>
the BG has responded, others are invited to comment as well.=C2=A0 This is =
not<br>
to discourage anyone's participation or contribution, but rather to pro=
vide<br>
a more inviting, less intimidating atmosphere for a beginner who might<br>
otherwise not be comfortable putting their efforts out there.<br>
<br>
At this point I have two requests:<br>
<br>
1) If you are a relative beginner with the language who might like to take<=
br>
advantage of the protocols of the KLBC, even if you've been on the list=
for<br>
a while, take a few minutes to write a post to the KLBC, in Klingon.=C2=A0 =
It<br>
can be about anything, but if you're looking for ideas, start with a si=
mple<br>
introduction.=C2=A0 Tell us your name, where you live, how old you are, any=
thing<br>
that will start a conversation and allow you to practice your Klingon.<br>
<br>
2) 'arHa', as the new BG, please take this opportunity to tell us a=
little<br>
about yourself as well, your interest in Klingon and how you view the<br>
restarting of the KLBC.=C2=A0 You will shortly become one of the most proli=
fic<br>
posters to the mailing list!=C2=A0 I know you have been here for several ye=
ars,<br>
and I know you used to hold a semi-regular qepHom; do you still do this?<br=
>
Curious Klingons want to know.=C2=A0 :)<br>
<br>
And finally, I would like to thank QeS 'utlh for undertaking the restar=
ting<br>
of the KLBC after all this time, for his excellent approach to seeking<br>
input on the process, reaching out to the list membership, reviewing<br>
candidates and making what I am sure will be an excellent selection.=C2=A0 =
A<br>
mighty {qatlho'} to you sir!<br>
<br>
Again, congratulations 'arHa'!=C2=A0 Let the conversations begin!<b=
r>
<br>
--Holtej</blockquote></div></div></div></div>
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