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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Affix of the Day: -mey
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Wed Nov 11 15:47:16 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:46:59 -0500
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This is accurate. Members of a family can use language, but the family =
itself cannot.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Karen Alessio <karenalessio@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> I think it is because a family is a group, which is a thing, not a =
single sentient entity...
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> On Nov 11, 2015 10:58 AM, "Fatairae" <fatairae@gmail.com =
<mailto:fatairae@gmail.com>> wrote:
> So, point I've been confused on.
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> qorDu'mey : families
> Or,
> qorDu'pu' : families
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> The practice lessons list "qorDu'wIj" as "my family", which indicates =
families are considered an object or unit, rather then a being capable =
of speaking. I can accept that (and the interesting cultural concepts =
it engenders), but is it right?
> Or, is family one of those implicit plurals, and you can't express a =
group of families directly?
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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:01, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com =
<mailto:nahqun@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Klingon Affix of the Day for Wednesday, November 11, 2015
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> Klingon affix: -mey
> Part of speech: Type 2 Noun Suffix
> Definition: plural (general)
> Source: TKD
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> This Klingon Affix of the Day is brought to you by naHQun
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 11, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Karen Alessio <<a =
href=3D"mailto:karenalessio@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">karenalessio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><p dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I think it is because a family is a group, which is a thing, =
not a single sentient entity...</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 11, 2015 10:58 AM, "Fatairae" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fatairae@gmail.com" class=3D"">fatairae@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution" class=3D""><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><div class=3D"">So, =
point I've been confused on.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">qorDu'mey : families</div><div =
class=3D"">Or,</div><div class=3D"">qorDu'pu' : families</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The practice lessons list "qorDu'wIj" as "my family", which =
indicates families are considered an object or unit, rather then a being =
capable of speaking. I can accept that (and the interesting =
cultural concepts it engenders), but is it right?<br class=3D""></div><div=
class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" =
class=3D"">Or, is family one of those implicit plurals, and you can't =
express a group of families directly?</span></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:01, Michael Roney, Jr. <<a =
href=3D"mailto:nahqun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">nahqun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">Klingon Affix of the Day for =
Wednesday, November 11, 2015</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D"">Klingon affix: -mey</span><br =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">Part of speech: Type 2 Noun Suffix</span><br =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">Definition: plural (general)</span><br =
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">Source: TKD</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><br=
style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px" =
class=3D"">This Klingon Affix of the Day is brought to you by =
naHQun</span><br class=3D"">
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