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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Tue Nov 10 12:59:34 2015
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:59:08 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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luckily,before moving on,I realized something needed further clarification.=
.
lets consider the following sentences :
{Sutmey chenmoHmeH targh luSurgh} <<they skinned the targh in order to make
clothes>>
{la' luQeHmoHmeH Duj luQaw=E2=80=99} <<they destroyed the vessel to anger t=
he
commander>>
I noticed that the {-meH} word comes at the beginning of the sentence (or
at least after the first word)
Can the sentences above be formulated as :
{targh luSurgh Sutmey chenmoHmeH}
{Duj luQaw=E2=80=99 la' luQeHmoHmeH} ?
as it seems the "sentences as objects" constellation will have to wait..
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM, DloraH <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > you took away my shoes in order to delay me
> > chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'
> >
> >
> > If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in
> > my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to
> > the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the
> > verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage,
> > however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.
>
> The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.
>
> tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS. vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-wI'. wa' vub ghaH
> tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.
> wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'. mIm-Qo'. DaH He-raj yI-choH. batlh tlhI-ngan
> Segh yI-Hub. Qap-la'.
>
> "Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III. A criminal has succeeded in taking
> hostages. One hostage is
> a Klingon diplomat. One is a Terran. One is a Romulan. Do not delay.
> Alter your course now.
> Defend the Klingon race with honor. Success."
>
> (The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)
>
>
> - DloraH
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>luckily,before moving on,I realized so=
mething needed further clarification..<br><br></div>lets consider the follo=
wing sentences :<br><br>{<span class=3D"im">Sutmey chenmoHmeH targh luSurgh=
}</span><span class=3D"im"> <<they skinned the targh in order to make=
clothes>><br>{</span>la' luQeHmoHmeH Duj luQaw=E2=80=99} <<=
;<span class=3D"im">they destroyed the vessel to anger the commander>>=
;<br><br></span></div><span class=3D"im">I noticed that the {-meH} word com=
es at the beginning of the sentence (or at least after the first word)<br><=
/span></div><span class=3D"im">Can the sentences above be formulated as :<b=
r><br>{</span><span class=3D"im">targh luSurgh </span><span class=3D"im">Su=
tmey chenmoHmeH}<br>{</span>Duj luQaw=E2=80=99 la' luQeHmoHmeH} ?<br><b=
r></div>as it seems the "sentences as objects" constellation will=
have to wait..<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM, DloraH <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:seruq@bellsouth.net" target=3D"_blank">seruq@bellsouth.net</a>=
></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you took away my shoes in order to delay me<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'<br>
><br>
><br>
> If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in<br>
> my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to<br>
> the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the<br>
> verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage,<br>
> however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.<br>
<br>
</span>The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.<br>
<br>
tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS.=C2=A0 vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-=
wI'.=C2=A0 wa' vub ghaH tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.<br>
wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'.=C2=A0 mIm-Qo'.=C2=A0 DaH He-r=
aj yI-choH.=C2=A0 batlh tlhI-ngan Segh yI-Hub.=C2=A0 Qap-la'.<br>
<br>
"Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III.=C2=A0 A criminal has succeeded i=
n taking hostages.=C2=A0 One hostage is<br>
a Klingon diplomat.=C2=A0 One is a Terran.=C2=A0 One is a Romulan.=C2=A0 Do=
not delay.=C2=A0 Alter your course now.<br>
Defend the Klingon race with honor.=C2=A0 Success."<br>
<br>
(The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
- DloraH<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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