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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Tue Nov 10 13:01:43 2015
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:01:21 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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I know that in TKD,it says that the purpose clause always precedes etc..
but I just want to make sure.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:59 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> luckily,before moving on,I realized something needed further
> clarification..
>
> lets consider the following sentences :
>
> {Sutmey chenmoHmeH targh luSurgh} <<they skinned the targh in order to
> make clothes>>
> {la' luQeHmoHmeH Duj luQaw=E2=80=99} <<they destroyed the vessel to anger=
the
> commander>>
>
> I noticed that the {-meH} word comes at the beginning of the sentence (or
> at least after the first word)
> Can the sentences above be formulated as :
>
> {targh luSurgh Sutmey chenmoHmeH}
> {Duj luQaw=E2=80=99 la' luQeHmoHmeH} ?
>
> as it seems the "sentences as objects" constellation will have to wait..
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM, DloraH <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> > you took away my shoes in order to delay me
>> > chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'
>> >
>> >
>> > If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in
>> > my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to
>> > the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the
>> > verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage,
>> > however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.
>>
>> The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.
>>
>> tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS. vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-wI'. wa' vub ghaH
>> tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.
>> wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'. mIm-Qo'. DaH He-raj yI-choH. batlh tlhI-nga=
n
>> Segh yI-Hub. Qap-la'.
>>
>> "Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III. A criminal has succeeded in takin=
g
>> hostages. One hostage is
>> a Klingon diplomat. One is a Terran. One is a Romulan. Do not delay.
>> Alter your course now.
>> Defend the Klingon race with honor. Success."
>>
>> (The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)
>>
>>
>> - DloraH
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know that in TKD,it says that the purpose clause always =
precedes etc.. but I just want to make sure.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:59 PM, qunno=
Q HoD <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>luckily,before moving on,I real=
ized something needed further clarification..<br><br></div>lets consider th=
e following sentences :<br><br>{<span>Sutmey chenmoHmeH targh luSurgh}</spa=
n><span> <<they skinned the targh in order to make clothes>><br=
>{</span>la' luQeHmoHmeH Duj luQaw=E2=80=99} <<<span>they destroy=
ed the vessel to anger the commander>><br><br></span></div><span>I no=
ticed that the {-meH} word comes at the beginning of the sentence (or at le=
ast after the first word)<br></span></div><span>Can the sentences above be =
formulated as :<br><br>{</span><span>targh luSurgh </span><span>Sutmey chen=
moHmeH}<br>{</span>Duj luQaw=E2=80=99 la' luQeHmoHmeH} ?<br><br></div>a=
s it seems the "sentences as objects" constellation will have to =
wait..<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Dlo=
raH <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:seruq@bellsouth.net" target=3D"=
_blank">seruq@bellsouth.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><span>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you took away my shoes in ord=
er to delay me<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'<br>
><br>
><br>
> If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in<br>
> my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to<br>
> the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the<br>
> verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage,<br>
> however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.<br>
<br>
</span>The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.<br>
<br>
tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS.=C2=A0 vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-=
wI'.=C2=A0 wa' vub ghaH tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.<br>
wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'.=C2=A0 mIm-Qo'.=C2=A0 DaH He-r=
aj yI-choH.=C2=A0 batlh tlhI-ngan Segh yI-Hub.=C2=A0 Qap-la'.<br>
<br>
"Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III.=C2=A0 A criminal has succeeded i=
n taking hostages.=C2=A0 One hostage is<br>
a Klingon diplomat.=C2=A0 One is a Terran.=C2=A0 One is a Romulan.=C2=A0 Do=
not delay.=C2=A0 Alter your course now.<br>
Defend the Klingon race with honor.=C2=A0 Success."<br>
<br>
(The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
- DloraH<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
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