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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] HolQeD grammar
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Mon Nov 2 11:33:06 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAP7F2cLPtb-+5Y1+vSG=YFj_fEUpv0TgfVetuGDV1Jn1kTnzNw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:32:50 -0500
To: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Cc: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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HolQeD was an academic journal with a peer review process as part of =
publication. There may have been a couple of small articles written by =
Okrand over the decade or so it was published, though I=E2=80=99m not =
really sure that ever happened. There were interviews with him. I did an =
interview with him.
Mostly, these articles were written by informed people who presented =
ideas and had them reviewed by peers to make sure they were valid and =
sufficiently well presented to represent the standards of the =
publication.
These are resources that clarify the grammar already published in the =
two books you mention. They don=E2=80=99t really explain any new grammar =
not included in those publications.
It would definitely be a good resource to be able to let everyone see =
all these issues, but Lawrence is the gatekeeper on this one, and he =
went to great trouble to have the originals =E2=80=9Cdone well=E2=80=9D =
and doesn=E2=80=99t want reissues done less professionally. I offered to =
scan what I have with OCR and manually edit the result to reflect the =
original, but he apparently has a different plan. He also doesn=E2=80=99t =
want them scanned as graphics and presented =E2=80=9Cas is=E2=80=9D.
So, until he finds the resources to do it his way, they are not =
available to the general public.
Instead, you have the resource of several people here who have them and =
can help in the process of correcting and discussing things with you, =
while referencing the HolQeD volumes. I wish I could offer a more direct =
resource, but I=E2=80=99m not sure your public library ever bought =
copies of HolQeD that you could check out.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:52 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
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> there is something I would like to ask..
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> someone studies the grammar of TKD & KGT. but he cannot find any of =
the HolQeD issues. So his grammar comes exclusively from these 2 =
books...
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> should he worry,that without HolQeD he will be missing anything on =
Klingon grammar ? or -to ask what worries me- can I sleep peacefully at =
night,knowing that I may never find HolQeD,but since I have TKD and KGT =
I will be ok ?
>=20
> qunnoQ HoD
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">HolQeD was an academic journal with a peer =
review process as part of publication. There may have been a couple of =
small articles written by Okrand over the decade or so it was published, =
though I=E2=80=99m not really sure that ever happened. There were =
interviews with him. I did an interview with him.</div><div class=3D""><br=
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Mostly, these articles were written by =
informed people who presented ideas and had them reviewed by peers to =
make sure they were valid and sufficiently well presented to represent =
the standards of the publication.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">These are resources that clarify the =
grammar already published in the two books you mention. They don=E2=80=99t=
really explain any new grammar not included in those =
publications.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=
would definitely be a good resource to be able to let everyone see all =
these issues, but Lawrence is the gatekeeper on this one, and he went to =
great trouble to have the originals =E2=80=9Cdone well=E2=80=9D and =
doesn=E2=80=99t want reissues done less professionally. I offered to =
scan what I have with OCR and manually edit the result to reflect the =
original, but he apparently has a different plan. He also doesn=E2=80=99t =
want them scanned as graphics and presented =E2=80=9Cas is=E2=80=9D.</div>=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So, until he finds =
the resources to do it his way, they are not available to the general =
public.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Instead,=
you have the resource of several people here who have them and can help =
in the process of correcting and discussing things with you, while =
referencing the HolQeD volumes. I wish I could offer a more direct =
resource, but I=E2=80=99m not sure your public library ever bought =
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class=3D"">On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:52 AM, qunnoQ HoD <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">there is something I would like to ask..<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>someone studies the grammar of TKD & KGT. but he =
cannot find any of the HolQeD issues. So his grammar comes exclusively =
from these 2 books...<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>should he =
worry,that without HolQeD he will be missing anything on Klingon grammar =
? or -to ask what worries me- can I sleep peacefully at night,knowing =
that I may never find HolQeD,but since I have TKD and KGT I will be ok =
?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>qunnoQ HoD<br class=3D""></div>
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