[101812] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Piraha
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Mon Nov 2 11:04:17 2015
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:04:02 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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> {tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99} "soon he dies with honor"
i'm sorry to lead this discussion of track,but {-mo'} as i just
saw,translates to <<due to,because of>>.
why is then the translation <<soon he dies with honor>> and not <<soon he
dies because of honor>> ?
> {reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH} "they always fight with honor"
{reH} always
{batlh} honor
{Suv} to fight
{-taH} continuous
{-jaj} may
{chaH} they
why <<they always fight with honor>> and not <<may they keep fighting with
honor>> ?
qunnoQ HoD
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
> I'm not sure what the initial question was, but these examples do not sho=
w
> a real answer, in my opinion. All of the multiple adverbials are actually
> time stamps plus adverb, so not really "TWO" adverbs.
> The only rule we can see here, is that time stamps come first:
>
> {tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99}
> "soon he dies with honor"
>
> {reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH}
> "they always fight with honor"
>
> I don't see two adverbials here, unless you see vaj as one, which I see
> more as a conjunction:
>
> > Hay=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99 luneHqu=E2=80=99
>
>> vaj pe=E2=80=99vIl joqqu=E2=80=99
>> cha=E2=80=99 tlhIngan tIqDu=E2=80=99
>>
>
> Any examples with true aderbials or adverbs of the same type??
>
>
> --
> Lieven L. Litaer
> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
> Grammarian of the KLI
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>> {tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99}=
"soon he dies with honor"<br><br></div>i'm sorry to lead thi=
s discussion of track,but {-mo'} as i just saw,translates to <<du=
e to,because of>>. <br></div>why is then the translation <<soon=
he dies with honor>> and not <<soon he dies because of honor&g=
t;> ?<br><br><br>> {reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH} "they always fight=
with honor"<br><br></div>{reH} always<br></div>{batlh} honor<br></div=
><div>{Suv} to fight<br></div><div>{-taH} continuous<br></div><div>{-jaj} m=
ay<br></div><div>{chaH} they<br><br></div><div>why <<they always figh=
t with honor>> and not <<may they keep fighting with honor>&=
gt; ?<br><br></div><div>qunnoQ HoD<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Lieven <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">lev=
inius@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'=
m not sure what the initial question was, but these examples do not show a =
real answer, in my opinion. All of the multiple adverbials are actually tim=
e stamps plus adverb, so not really "TWO" adverbs.<br>
The only rule we can see here, is that time stamps come first:<br>
<br>
{tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99}<br>
"soon he dies with honor"<br>
<br>
{reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH}<br>
"they always fight with honor"<br>
<br>
I don't see two adverbials here, unless you see vaj as one, which I see=
more as a conjunction:<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
> Hay=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99 luneHqu=E2=80=99<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
vaj pe=E2=80=99vIl joqqu=E2=80=99<br>
cha=E2=80=99 tlhIngan tIqDu=E2=80=99<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Any examples with true aderbials or adverbs of the same type??<div class=3D=
"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Lieven L. Litaer<br>
aka Quvar valer 'utlh<br>
Grammarian of the KLI<br>
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t=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher</a><br>
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>http://www.klingonwiki.net</a><br>
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