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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Piraha
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Mon Nov 2 11:01:56 2015
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:01:40 +0100
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
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My wordlist can be sorted by part of speech, so I'm trying to find example
sentences there... excluding those with time-stamps or conjunctions...
{chaq tugh batlh Heghmo'!}
'For they may die with honor!' (maybe + soon + honorful)
(even disregarding {tugh} as a time stamp, there are still 2 adverbs)
This is the only clear example that I could find. Most others with two
adverbs have a time stamp or what might be regarded as a conjunction, or a
numeral expression like "twice". But the example above might suffice.
Unfortunately I don't know the source (I only note those for words, not
sentences), I only know it's a canonical example.
- Andr=C3=A9
2015-11-02 16:47 GMT+01:00 Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>:
> I'm not sure what the initial question was, but these examples do not sho=
w
> a real answer, in my opinion. All of the multiple adverbials are actually
> time stamps plus adverb, so not really "TWO" adverbs.
> The only rule we can see here, is that time stamps come first:
>
> {tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99}
> "soon he dies with honor"
>
> {reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH}
> "they always fight with honor"
>
> I don't see two adverbials here, unless you see vaj as one, which I see
> more as a conjunction:
>
> > Hay=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99 luneHqu=E2=80=99
>
>> vaj pe=E2=80=99vIl joqqu=E2=80=99
>> cha=E2=80=99 tlhIngan tIqDu=E2=80=99
>>
>
> Any examples with true aderbials or adverbs of the same type??
>
> --
> Lieven L. Litaer
> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
> Grammarian of the KLI
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>My wordlist can be sorted by part of s=
peech, so I'm trying to find example sentences there... excluding those=
with time-stamps or conjunctions...<br><br></div>{chaq tugh batlh Heghmo&#=
39;!}<br></div>'For they may die with honor!' (maybe + soon + honor=
ful)<br></div><div>(even disregarding {tugh} as a time stamp, there are sti=
ll 2 adverbs)<br></div><div><br></div>This is the only clear example that I=
could find. Most others with two adverbs have a time stamp or what might b=
e regarded as a conjunction, or a numeral expression like "twice"=
. But the example above might suffice. Unfortunately I don't know the s=
ource (I only note those for words, not sentences), I only know it's a =
canonical example.<br><br></div>- Andr=C3=A9<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-11-02 16:47 GMT+01:00 Lieven <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levi=
nius@gmx.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm not s=
ure what the initial question was, but these examples do not show a real an=
swer, in my opinion. All of the multiple adverbials are actually time stamp=
s plus adverb, so not really "TWO" adverbs.<br>
The only rule we can see here, is that time stamps come first:<br>
<br>
{tugh batlh Heghmo=E2=80=99}<br>
"soon he dies with honor"<br>
<br>
{reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH}<br>
"they always fight with honor"<br>
<br>
I don't see two adverbials here, unless you see vaj as one, which I see=
more as a conjunction:<br>
<br>
> Hay=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99 luneHqu=E2=80=99<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
vaj pe=E2=80=99vIl joqqu=E2=80=99<br>
cha=E2=80=99 tlhIngan tIqDu=E2=80=99<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Any examples with true aderbials or adverbs of the same type??<span class=
=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Lieven L. Litaer<br>
aka Quvar valer 'utlh<br>
Grammarian of the KLI<br>
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t=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher</a><br>
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>http://www.klingonwiki.net</a><br>
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