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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New words needed
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Mon Nov 2 08:56:15 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
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In my understanding of typical steam engine designs, the used steam is =
usually vented upward in a jet concentric with the boiler=E2=80=99s =
chimney in order to amplify the draft, making the coal burn hotter and =
generate more steam. So, the only place the =E2=80=9Cused steam=E2=80=9D =
is vented is in the same gas stream as the gases from its coal burning. =
I would expect the term =E2=80=9Cexhaust=E2=80=9D for a steam engine to =
imply both used steam AND gases from the coal flame.
This is why a steam engine=E2=80=99s chimney goes =E2=80=9Cchug, chug, =
chug=E2=80=9D and comes out in percussive billows and doesn=E2=80=99t =
just look like the chimney for a normal fireplace in a home.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Anthony Appleyard =
<a.appleyard@btinternet.com> wrote:
>=20
> Jetpack:
>=20
> I suppose that for general use in action, I could run with {DubvIj} =
(plural {DubchuyDaH}) for "jetpack", with less ambiguity if {Dub} only =
means an anatomical back and cannot be transferred to a "dorsal" part of =
a ship or other vehicle or machine.
>=20
> (It could be that the plural {DubvIjmey} implies that the jetpack =
storeroom has become seriously untidy :-) .)
>=20
> taQbang (N exhaust):-
>=20
> In the real world I have come across these sorts of exhaust:
> (1) (Oldest meaning), used low-pressure steam from steam engines, but =
not the gases from its coal burning.
> (2) Waste gases from internal combustion engines.
> -- In those 2 uses, the engine's power comes out of the drive shaft =
and not in the exhaust.
> (3) The propulsive blast from jets and rockets.
>=20
> Which of these, or what, is the meaning of any canon uses of =
{taQbang}?
>=20
> (taQ means "be weird", as if, before the Klingons had space travel, =
they came across (2) (waste gases from internal combustion engines) and =
did not like the resulting smell. :-) )
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> But, as TKD's technology is that of Star Trek, what canon uses are =
there of the sorts of engine available in the real world?
> ----Original message----
> =46rom : qeslagh@hotmail.com <mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com>
> Date : 01/11/2015 - 06:13 (GMTST)
> To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org <mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New words needed
>=20
> ghItlhpu' Anthony, jatlh:
> > I was going to answer "I would self-defenestrate - with a jetpack =
on". But
> > I can't find a word for "(air-breathing) jetmotor" or "rocket" or =
"backpack".
>=20
> For "rocket", {vIj} "thruster" is what you'd be looking for (and =
remember that it has the inherent plural {chuyDaH}).
>=20
> taH:
> > I have found "vey N [set|pack|package]", but I can't find a word for =
"man's
> > or animal's back" to pair it with to make a word for "backpack".
>=20
> {vey} doesn't mean "pack" in the sense of "backpack", but in the sense =
of a pack of cards (that is, a set or assemblage of objects viewed as a =
unit). As for "back", the word you're looking for is {Dub} "back (of =
body)". It's on TKD p.85.
>=20
> taH:
> > All that I can come up with is {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh pengHom} =3D =
"[very]
> > small torpedo tied onto me"; or {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh QuQHom}, but =
that
> > does not specify what sort of motor.
>=20
> The word order for these needs to be switched, since {pengHom} and =
{QuQHom} are the objects, not the subjects: for instance, {jIHDaq =
pengHom baghlu'bogh}.
>=20
> {Dub chuyDaH} "back thrusters, thrusters on the back" might be a =
simplistic rendition, or {DubwIjDaq chuyDaH baghlu'bogh}.
>=20
> QeS 'utlh
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">In my understanding of typical steam engine =
designs, the used steam is usually vented upward in a jet concentric =
with the boiler=E2=80=99s chimney in order to amplify the draft, making =
the coal burn hotter and generate more steam. So, the only place the =
=E2=80=9Cused steam=E2=80=9D is vented is in the same gas stream as the =
gases from its coal burning. I would expect the term =E2=80=9Cexhaust=E2=80=
=9D for a steam engine to imply both used steam AND gases from the coal =
flame.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is =
why a steam engine=E2=80=99s chimney goes =E2=80=9Cchug, chug, chug=E2=80=9D=
and comes out in percussive billows and doesn=E2=80=99t just look like =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Anthony Appleyard <<a =
href=3D"mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com" =
class=3D"">a.appleyard@btinternet.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
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!important;" class=3D"">Jetpack:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
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!important;" class=3D"">I suppose that for general use in action, I =
could run with {DubvIj} (plural {DubchuyDaH}) for "jetpack", with less =
ambiguity if {Dub} only means an anatomical back and cannot be =
transferred to a "dorsal" part of a ship or other vehicle or =
machine.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">(It could be that the =
plural {DubvIjmey} implies that the jetpack storeroom has become =
seriously untidy :-) .)</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">taQbang (N =
exhaust):-</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">In the real world I have =
come across these sorts of exhaust:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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!important;" class=3D"">(1) (Oldest meaning), used low-pressure steam =
from steam engines, but not the gases from its coal burning.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">(2) Waste gases from internal combustion =
engines.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">-- In those 2 uses, the =
engine's power comes out of the drive shaft and not in the =
exhaust.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">(3) The propulsive blast =
from jets and rockets.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Which of these, or what, =
is the meaning of any canon uses of {taQbang}?</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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!important;" class=3D"">(taQ means "be weird", as if, before the =
Klingons had space travel, they came across (2) (waste gases from =
internal combustion engines) and did not like the resulting smell. :-) =
)</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">But, as TKD's technology =
is that of Star Trek, what canon uses are there of the sorts of engine =
available in the real world?</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
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margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 15px;" class=3D"">----Original =
message----<br class=3D"">=46rom :<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com" class=3D"">qeslagh@hotmail.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Date : 01/11/2015 - 06:13 (GMTST)<br class=3D"">To :<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" =
class=3D"">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br class=3D"">Subject : Re: =
[Tlhingan-hol] New words needed<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">ghItlhpu' Anthony, jatlh:<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">> I was going to answer "I would self-defenestrate - with =
a jetpack on". But<br class=3D"">> I can't find a word for =
"(air-breathing) jetmotor" or "rocket" or "backpack".<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">For "rocket", {vIj} "thruster" is what you'd be looking for =
(and remember that it has the inherent plural {chuyDaH}).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">taH:<br class=3D"">> I have found "vey N =
[set|pack|package]", but I can't find a word for "man's<br class=3D"">>=
or animal's back" to pair it with to make a word for "backpack".<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">{vey} doesn't mean "pack" in the sense of =
"backpack", but in the sense of a pack of cards (that is, a set or =
assemblage of objects viewed as a unit). As for "back", the word you're =
looking for is {Dub} "back (of body)". It's on TKD p.85.<br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">taH:<br class=3D"">> All that I can come up with is =
{jIHDaq baghlu'bogh pengHom} =3D "[very]<br class=3D"">> small =
torpedo tied onto me"; or {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh QuQHom}, but that<br =
class=3D"">> does not specify what sort of motor.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The word order for these needs to be switched, since =
{pengHom} and {QuQHom} are the objects, not the subjects: for instance, =
{jIHDaq pengHom baghlu'bogh}.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">{Dub chuyDaH} =
"back thrusters, thrusters on the back" might be a simplistic rendition, =
or {DubwIjDaq chuyDaH baghlu'bogh}.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">QeS =
'utlh<br class=3D""></div></div><br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
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