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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New words needed
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Sun Nov 1 05:25:20 2015
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 10:24:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard@btinternet.com>
To: qeslagh@hotmail.com, tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Jetpack:
I suppose that for general use in action, I could run with {DubvIj} (plural {DubchuyDaH}) for "jetpack", with less ambiguity if {Dub} only means an anatomical back and cannot be transferred to a "dorsal" part of a ship or other vehicle or machine.
(It could be that the plural {DubvIjmey} implies that the jetpack storeroom has become seriously untidy :-) .)
taQbang (N exhaust):-
In the real world I have come across these sorts of exhaust:
(1) (Oldest meaning), used low-pressure steam from steam engines, but not the gases from its coal burning.
(2) Waste gases from internal combustion engines.
-- In those 2 uses, the engine's power comes out of the drive shaft and not in the exhaust.
(3) The propulsive blast from jets and rockets.
Which of these, or what, is the meaning of any canon uses of {taQbang}?
(taQ means "be weird", as if, before the Klingons had space travel, they came across (2) (waste gases from internal combustion engines) and did not like the resulting smell. :-) )
But, as TKD's technology is that of Star Trek, what canon uses are there of the sorts of engine available in the real world?
----Original message----
From : qeslagh@hotmail.com
Date : 01/11/2015 - 06:13 (GMTST)
To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New words needed
ghItlhpu' Anthony, jatlh:
> I was going to answer "I would self-defenestrate - with a jetpack on". But
> I can't find a word for "(air-breathing) jetmotor" or "rocket" or "backpack".
For "rocket", {vIj} "thruster" is what you'd be looking for (and remember that it has the inherent plural {chuyDaH}).
taH:
> I have found "vey N [set|pack|package]", but I can't find a word for "man's
> or animal's back" to pair it with to make a word for "backpack".
{vey} doesn't mean "pack" in the sense of "backpack", but in the
sense of a pack of cards (that is, a set or assemblage of objects viewed
as a unit). As for "back", the word you're looking for is {Dub} "back (of body)". It's on TKD p.85.
taH:
> All that I can come up with is {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh pengHom} = "[very]
> small torpedo tied onto me"; or {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh QuQHom}, but that
> does not specify what sort of motor.
The word order for these needs to be switched, since {pengHom} and {QuQHom} are the objects, not the subjects: for instance, {jIHDaq pengHom baghlu'bogh}.
{Dub chuyDaH} "back thrusters, thrusters on the back" might be a simplistic rendition, or {DubwIjDaq chuyDaH baghlu'bogh}.
QeS 'utlh
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Jetpack:<br><br>I suppose that for general use in action, I could run with =
{DubvIj} (plural {DubchuyDaH}) for "jetpack", with less ambiguity if {Dub} =
only means an anatomical back and cannot be transferred to a "dorsal" part =
of a ship or other vehicle or machine.<br><br>(It could be that the plural =
{DubvIjmey} implies that the jetpack storeroom has become seriously untidy =
:-) .)<br><br>taQbang (N exhaust):-<br><br>In the real world I have come ac=
ross these sorts of exhaust:<br>(1) (Oldest meaning), used low-pressure ste=
am from steam engines, but not the gases from its coal burning.<br>(2) Wast=
e gases from internal combustion engines.<br>-- In those 2 uses, the engine=
's power comes out of the drive shaft and not in the exhaust.<br>(3) The pr=
opulsive blast from jets and rockets.<br><br>Which of these, or what, is th=
e meaning of any canon uses of {taQbang}?<br><br>(taQ means "be weird", as =
if, before the Klingons had space travel, they came across (2) (waste gases=
from internal combustion engines) and did not like the resulting smell. :-=
) )<br><br>But, as TKD's technology is that of Star Trek, what canon uses a=
re there of the sorts of engine available in the real world?<br><blockquote=
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hingan-hol@kli.org<br>Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New words needed<br><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">ghItlhpu' Anthony, jatlh:<br><div>> I was going to answ=
er "I would self-defenestrate - with a jetpack on". But<br>> I can't fin=
d a word for "(air-breathing) jetmotor" or "rocket" or "backpack".<br><br>F=
or "rocket", {vIj} "thruster" is what you'd be looking for (and remember th=
at it has the inherent plural {chuyDaH}).<br><br>taH:<br>> I have found =
"vey N [set|pack|package]", but I can't find a word for "man's<br>> or a=
nimal's back" to pair it with to make a word for "backpack".<br><br>{vey} d=
oesn't mean "pack" in the sense of "backpack", but in the=20
sense of a pack of cards (that is, a set or assemblage of objects viewed
as a unit). As for "back", the word you're looking for is {Dub} "back (of =
body)". It's on TKD p.85.<br><br>taH:<br>> All that I can come up with i=
s {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh pengHom} =3D "[very]<br>> small torpedo tied onto =
me"; or {jIHDaq baghlu'bogh QuQHom}, but that<br>> does not specify what=
sort of motor.<br><br>The word order for these needs to be switched, since=
{pengHom} and {QuQHom} are the objects, not the subjects: for instance, {j=
IHDaq pengHom baghlu'bogh}.<br><br>{Dub chuyDaH} "back thrusters, thrusters=
on the back" might be a simplistic rendition, or {DubwIjDaq chuyDaH baghlu=
'bogh}.<br><br>QeS 'utlh<br></div> =09=09 =09 =09=09 </div>
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