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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vengHom

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh)
Sat Oct 31 16:37:20 2015

From: lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:37:03 -0400
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Marc, we need a word for self-defenestration!

Or maybe just defenestration-=E2=80=98egh...

lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably



> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:02 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >  The New Words List on the KLI Web site has all the words listed =
that exist in one side and not the other, or that have different =
definitions on the two sides. All this is noted in the definitions.
>     I tried to be thorough when I did that. It was a very intentional =
part of the design of the list.
> >  It=E2=80=99s not wasted! You did very well.  If you have all the =
vocabulary from either side of TKD, plus either side of KGT, plus the =
New Words list at http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/ =
<http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/> then you have =
everything.  The new words list gives one-side words.
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> thank you ! thank you both so much ! what a relief.. I felt like =
jumping out of the window (Greek expression to indicate despair) just by =
the thought of having to go through all this again !
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> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:30 PM, <qov@kli.org <mailto:qov@kli.org>> =
wrote:
> It=E2=80=99s not wasted! You did very well.  If you have all the =
vocabulary from either side of TKD, plus either side of KGT, plus the =
New Words list at http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/ =
<http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/> then you have =
everything.  The new words list gives one-side words.
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> =20
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> - Qov
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> From: qunnoQ HoD [mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>]=20=

> Sent: October 31, 2015 8:40
> To: Christopher Kidder-Mostrom
> Cc: tlhingan-hol@kli.org <mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vengHom
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> =20
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> this is so unfair !
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> all this work and effort down the drain (at least as far as the =
dictionary compiled,being complete) is concerned..
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> =20
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> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Christopher Kidder-Mostrom =
<cokidder@gmail.com <mailto:cokidder@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> It is true that there are some words that are only listed in one =
section or the other.
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> =20
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> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:18 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com =
<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> ok.. ok.. lets calm down a little.. deep breath.. deep breath
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> just a little while ago i finished compiling my own dictionary from =
the english-klingon sections of TKD (addendum included), and KGT. And of =
course it wasn't easy writing all those words by hand,one word at a =
time. So far so good... When I finished I was happy that i eventually =
gathered together all canon words included in those books.
>=20
> but now i see that the word <<village>> is neither on page 160, nor on =
page 191 (addendum). It is to be found only in the K-E section ! Does =
this mean that my dictionary is incomplete,that there are more canon =
words in these books,and that i have to go through them (again) looking =
up all the words of K-E one word at a time ?
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> I always thought that the words were identical in both K-E,and E-K..
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> qunnoQ
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> =20
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> =20
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> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:00 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net =
<mailto:qurgh@wizage.net>> wrote:
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> Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, October 31, 2015
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> Klingon word: vengHom
> Part of speech: noun
> Definition: village
> Source: TKD:K-E
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> This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh =
(qurgh@wizage.net <mailto:qurgh@wizage.net>).
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class=3D"">Marc, we need a word for self-defenestration!<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Or maybe just =
defenestration-=E2=80=98egh...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"">lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =
=E2=80=98utlh</div><div class=3D"">Door Repair Guy, Retired =
Honorably</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:02 PM, qunnoQ HoD &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp; The New Words List on the KLI Web site =
has all the words listed=20
that exist in one side and not the other, or that have different=20
definitions on the two sides. All this is noted in the definitions.<div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I tried to be thorough when I did that. It =
was a very intentional part of the design of the list.<span =
class=3D"im"><br class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s
 not wasted! You did very well.&nbsp; If you have all the vocabulary =
from=20
either side of TKD, plus either side of KGT, plus the New Words list at =
<a href=3D"http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/</a> then =
you have everything.&nbsp; The new words list gives one-side words.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D"">thank you ! thank =
you both so much ! what a relief.. I felt like jumping out of the window =
(Greek expression to indicate despair) just by the thought of having to =
go through all this again !<span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:30 PM,  =
<span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qov@kli.org" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">qov@kli.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link=3D"blue" =
vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D""><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s not wasted! You did very =
well.&nbsp; If you have all the vocabulary from either side of TKD, plus =
either side of KGT, plus the New Words list at <a =
href=3D"http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/</a> then =
you have everything.&nbsp; The new words list gives one-side words.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=3D"">- Qov<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
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class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;" lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;" lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""> qunnoQ HoD [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>] <br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b> =
October 31, 2015 8:40<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b> Christopher =
Kidder-Mostrom<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: =
vengHom<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><div class=3D""><div=
 class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">this is so unfair !<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">all =
this work and effort down the drain (at least as far as the dictionary =
compiled,being complete) is concerned..<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Christopher =
Kidder-Mostrom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cokidder@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
 class=3D"">cokidder@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is true =
that there are some words that are only listed in one section or the =
other.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:18 AM, qunnoQ HoD &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">ok.. ok.. lets calm down a little.. deep =
breath.. deep breath<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">just a little while =
ago i finished compiling my own dictionary from the english-klingon =
sections of TKD (addendum included), and KGT. And of course it wasn't =
easy writing all those words by hand,one word at a time. So far so =
good... When I finished I was happy that i eventually gathered together =
all canon words included in those books.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">but now i see that the word =
&lt;&lt;village&gt;&gt; is neither on page 160, nor on page 191 =
(addendum). It is to be found only in the K-E section ! Does this mean =
that my dictionary is incomplete,that there are more canon words in =
these books,and that i have to go through them (again) looking up all =
the words of K-E one word at a time ?<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I always thought that the words were =
identical in both K-E,and E-K..<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"color:#888888" class=3D"">qunnoQ<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"color:#888888" class=3D""><u=
 class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:00 PM, qurgh lungqIj =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">qurgh@wizage.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Klingon Word of the Day for =
Saturday, October 31, 2015<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Klingon word: =
vengHom<br class=3D"">Part of speech: noun<br class=3D"">Definition: =
village<br class=3D"">Source: TKD:K-E<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (<a =
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