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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: yoymoHwI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brent Kesler)
Fri Oct 9 14:21:07 2015
In-Reply-To: <4BA70FE8-92E4-4D63-B8EC-CCD1065E7805@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:20:45 -0400
From: Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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English also uses the word "inverter" to denote a NOT logic gate in digital
circuits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverter_(logic_gate)
Basically it turns 1's into 0's and 0's into 1's. I think "turn upside
down" is a much more direct metaphor for logical inverters than electrical
inverters.
bI'reng
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
wrote:
> wejpuH.
>
> The problem here, of course, is that in English, we use the word
> =E2=80=9Cinverter=E2=80=9D to describe a device that converts Direct Curr=
ent (DC)
> electricity, like from a battery or solar panel, into Alternating Current
> (AC), like from a wall socket in an average home. It doesn=E2=80=99t actu=
ally turn
> anything upside down. It uses power transistors, which are basically fast=
,
> electronic switches to switch between one polarity and another polarity. =
We
> probably should have called them =E2=80=9Cpolarity reversers=E2=80=9D and=
not =E2=80=9Cinverters=E2=80=9D.
>
> In other words, you have two wires. One is positive. One is negative.
> =E2=80=9CSquare wave=E2=80=9D inverters switch which wire is which 120 ti=
mes a second for
> 60 cycle AC current. Or modified sine wave inverters typically switch 480
> times a second between off, 55 volts positive, 110 volts positive, 55 vol=
ts
> positive, off, 55 volts negative, 110 volts negative, 55 volts negative,
> and off.
>
> Or =E2=80=9CTrue Sine Wave=E2=80=9D inverters are actually modified sine =
wave inverters
> placed in line with large-mass 1:1 transformers, using the magnetic inert=
ia
> of the iron core to smooth out the steps in the stepped waves to create
> smooth sine waves of AC current.
>
> So, in English, we used the word =E2=80=9Cinvert=E2=80=9D instead of =E2=
=80=9Creverse=E2=80=9D to describe
> what we=E2=80=99re doing to the electrical polarity of the wires, and Okr=
and takes
> the term =E2=80=9Cinvert=E2=80=9D and takes the =E2=80=9Cmake something u=
pside down=E2=80=9D interpretation
> of the term, and here we have a poorly descriptive English term for the
> task at hand that has perhaps now become a poorly descriptive Klingon ter=
m,
> unless of course, a Klingon {yoymoHwI=E2=80=99} is something that actuall=
y turns
> things upside down, and doesn=E2=80=99t have anything to do with converti=
ng DC to
> AC.
>
> Unless {yoymoH} actually has a broader scope of meaning, like =E2=80=9Cin=
vert=E2=80=9D,
> and while both CAN mean =E2=80=9Ccause to be upside down=E2=80=9D, they a=
lso can refer to
> other kinds of reversals of state.
>
> [sigh]
>
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote=
:
> >
> >> Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, October 09, 2015
> >>
> >> Klingon word: yoymoHwI'
> >> Part of speech: noun
> >> Definition: inverter
> >> Source:
> >
> > Bill Willmerdinger, BabelCon 2 [4/07/1997]:
> >
> > "I had needed some technobable once and created 'inverter' ...
> > which Marc [Okrand] said was perfect."
> >
> > SEE ALSO:
> > yoy be upside down (v)
> > chong be vertical (v)
> > taH be at a negative angle (v)
> > lol be in an attitude (v)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Voragh
> > Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> >
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">English also uses the word "inverter" to denote =
a NOT logic gate in digital circuits.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https:/=
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverter_(logic_gate)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki=
/Inverter_(logic_gate)</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Basically it turns =
1's into 0's and 0's into 1's. I think "turn upside do=
wn" is a much more direct metaphor for logical inverters than electric=
al inverters.</div><div><br></div><div>bI'reng</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:20 A=
M, Will Martin <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">wejpuH.<br>
<br>
The problem here, of course, is that in English, we use the word =E2=80=9Ci=
nverter=E2=80=9D to describe a device that converts Direct Current (DC) ele=
ctricity, like from a battery or solar panel, into Alternating Current (AC)=
, like from a wall socket in an average home. It doesn=E2=80=99t actually t=
urn anything upside down. It uses power transistors, which are basically fa=
st, electronic switches to switch between one polarity and another polarity=
. We probably should have called them =E2=80=9Cpolarity reversers=E2=80=9D =
and not =E2=80=9Cinverters=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
In other words, you have two wires. One is positive. One is negative. =E2=
=80=9CSquare wave=E2=80=9D inverters switch which wire is which 120 times a=
second for 60 cycle AC current. Or modified sine wave inverters typically =
switch 480 times a second between off, 55 volts positive, 110 volts positiv=
e, 55 volts positive, off, 55 volts negative, 110 volts negative, 55 volts =
negative, and off.<br>
<br>
Or =E2=80=9CTrue Sine Wave=E2=80=9D inverters are actually modified sine wa=
ve inverters placed in line with large-mass 1:1 transformers, using the mag=
netic inertia of the iron core to smooth out the steps in the stepped waves=
to create smooth sine waves of AC current.<br>
<br>
So, in English, we used the word =E2=80=9Cinvert=E2=80=9D instead of =E2=80=
=9Creverse=E2=80=9D to describe what we=E2=80=99re doing to the electrical =
polarity of the wires, and Okrand takes the term =E2=80=9Cinvert=E2=80=9D a=
nd takes the =E2=80=9Cmake something upside down=E2=80=9D interpretation of=
the term, and here we have a poorly descriptive English term for the task =
at hand that has perhaps now become a poorly descriptive Klingon term, unle=
ss of course, a Klingon {yoymoHwI=E2=80=99} is something that actually turn=
s things upside down, and doesn=E2=80=99t have anything to do with converti=
ng DC to AC.<br>
<br>
Unless {yoymoH} actually has a broader scope of meaning, like =E2=80=9Cinve=
rt=E2=80=9D, and while both CAN mean =E2=80=9Ccause to be upside down=E2=80=
=9D, they also can refer to other kinds of reversals of state.<br>
<br>
[sigh]<br>
<br>
pItlh<br>
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Steven Boozer <<a href=3D"mailto:sbooz=
er@uchicago.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, October 09, 2015<br>
>><br>
>> Klingon word: yoymoHwI'<br>
>> Part of speech: noun<br>
>> Definition: inverter<br>
>> Source:<br>
><br>
> Bill Willmerdinger, BabelCon 2 [4/07/1997]:<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 "I had needed some technobable once and created 'invert=
er' ...<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0which Marc [Okrand] said was perfect."<br>
><br>
> SEE ALSO:<br>
> yoy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be upside down (v)<br>
> chong=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be vertical (v)<br>
> taH=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be at a negative angle (v)=
<br>
> lol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be in an attitude (v)<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Voragh<br>
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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