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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qepHom 2015 with Marc Okrand
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Sat Mar 28 18:48:34 2015
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:48:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard@btinternet.com>
To: elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhotic
I don't know how many members of KLI are British, but I am in England and my pronunciation is standard British arhotic. Arhoticness is another thing affecting pronunciation here. For example, I pronounce "large" as {la:j} with no r-sound, and I pronounce "Thor" and "thaw" identically. I do not drawl; I keep short vowels short. British people learning Klingon would need to make an effort to pronounce {r} at the ends of syllables and in {rgh}.
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From : elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com
Date : 28/03/2015 - 22:20 (GMTST)
To :
Cc : tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qepHom 2015 with Marc Okrand
It's dangerous to use English words as examples for vowel sounds, because of all the regional variation. However, (at least in northeastern American English) the word cop does rhyme with shop, so the example is confusing. Sop would rhyme (approximately) with cope. (Also rhyming: mope, dope, etc.)
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<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhotic">https://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/Arhotic</a><br><br>I don't know how many members of KLI are British, b=
ut I am in England and my pronunciation is standard British arhotic. Arhoti=
cness is another thing affecting pronunciation here. For example, I pronoun=
ce "large" as {la:j} with no r-sound, and I pronounce "Thor" and "thaw" ide=
ntically. I do not drawl; I keep short vowels short. British people learnin=
g Klingon would need to make an effort to pronounce {r} at the ends of syll=
ables and in {rgh}.<br><blockquote style=3D"margin-right: 0px; margin-left:=
15px;">----Original message----<br>From : elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com<br=
>Date : 28/03/2015 - 22:20 (GMTST)<br>To : <br>Cc : tlhingan-hol@stodi.digi=
talkingdom.org<br>Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qepHom 2015 with Marc Okrand=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">It's dangerous to use English words as examples fo=
r vowel sounds, because of all the regional variation. However, (at l=
east in northeastern American English) the word cop does rhyme with shop, s=
o the example is confusing. Sop would rhyme (approximately) with cope=
. (Also rhyming: mope, dope, etc.)<br></div></blockquote>...<br><p></=
p>
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