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Re: Again on PPP/RH5.1 & Kernel Upgrading
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jan Carlson)
Mon Nov 16 04:12:12 1998
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 03:35:01 -0500
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
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Orlando San Martin wrote:
> Thanks Jan for your answer , but still having troubles and no PPP on my
> kernel yet.
>
> Have two questions this time, one is technical the other more phylosophical
> ??.
>
> Technical question :
>
> Given I have not managed to put a PPP on my kernel, I have no way of
> downloading anything whatsoever into my Linux machine !!..how can I still
> download and install the updates I need ??.
Do your downloads using DOS into C:\downloads (make that directory, or
similar)
Boot Linux.
Make your DOS C: visible to Linux by adding this line or a similar one to
/etc/fstab:
/dev/hda1 /c vfat rw,user 0 0
# mkdir /c
# mount /c
# cd /c/downloads
# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
>
>
> I can download them into my WIN98/DOS partition and from there via a
> diskette to Linux...this works fine for the small updates, less than 1.44
> MB...what about the larger ones.
Use the hard drive instead of floppies. See above.
>
>
> I maybe do not need all these updates now, but which one of them are
> required to have the ppp feature I need to internetting ??
Each update fixes something. Might as well get all updates for the
rpms you are using. See what packages you have installed like this:
# rpm -qa
For example, you don't need all 30 XFree86 rpm's, just 3 or 4
that you are using now.
If you are not planning to compile anything, you can skip all the
*devel*.rpm files too.
>
>
> I already did the :
>
> # rpm ppp-2_3_5_1-i386.rpm
>
> but still when I do the :
>
> # dmesg | less
>
> I still do not find any line refering to any PPP ??.
Check using
# lsmod
It is normally not loaded until you start using it.
You can force it to load using
# modprobe ppp
or
# insmod slhc
# insmod ppp
It is NOT necessary to recompile a kernel to use ppp.
>
>
> The phylosophical question :
>
> My point with buying a CD from Red Hat was preciselly to avoid all this
> downloading business, why is it that one do not get the whole thing on the
> CD ??..I can imagine a ppp is not like an "accesory", but a rather standard
> feature that most people require to conect to internet ....is like Bill
> Gates selling Windows without internet communication software, isn't it ??.
No, there is all the difference in the world.
Microsoft was slow to realize the
Internet would not go away.
Linux was developed *on* the Internet.
PPP does come on the RedHat CD, and it can be made to work.
In fact RedHat has PPP and everything else on the CD
you need to get on the Internet. Unfortunately, there
were some bugs, but the fixes were quickly available,
for free.
PPP can be made to work much more easily once you have
the updates installed. In fact it is easier than setting up
Dialup Networking on Windows, once you know to
trust linuxconf after the updates. You literally just
fill in 4 blanks and press two buttons. Then you
type 1 command (/sbin/ifup ppp0), and bang, you're on.
It would have been nicer if they could have tested and fixed more,
then stamped the CD's. In verion 5.2 they did just that.
At least RedHat makes fixes available quickly. All these
fixes are already built into the RedHat5.2 CD too. Also, the number
of updates for RedHat5.2 is now only 4, which is a huge improvement
compared to the 100 or so for 5.1. So they are improving!
You can buy a CD containing all the updates for RH5.1 from
various places for low prices, if you don't want to download
80 megabytes.
www.redhat.com
www.lsl.com
www.cheapbytes.com
--
Jan Carlson
janc@iname.com Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
Mailed with Netscape 4.5 on Red Hat Linux 5.2
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