[95804] in RedHat Linux List
RE: Ontrack?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richardson,Anthony)
Wed Oct 21 11:39:03 1998
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:36:00 -0400
From: "Richardson,Anthony" <ARichard@stark.cc.oh.us>
To: redhat-list <redhat-list@redhat.com>
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On Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:05 AM, redhat-list
[SMTP:redhat-list@redhat.com] wrote:
>
> My thanks for the several responses to my cry for help. Below I have
> included my original post. Here is the follow-up and clarification:
>
> First, there was a question raised as to whether Ontrack worked to
> make more than 8GB visible (in Win95). Yes it did work. The drive
> correctly reported that it was a 10GB drive. (Of course IBM's GB is
> 10**9, not 2**30.)
Windows 95 can determine that it is a 10 GB drive, but can it actually
make use of all 10 GB? That is, can you use Win95 fdisk to create
partitions
that take up the whole disk? I don't think that you can, even with
ontrack installed.
>
> Second, I decided to reinstall LILO. That got me back to square one.
> The new drive was no longer accessible to win95. From an msdos
> prompt, I Used fdisk and format to get use of the drive again. It
> now
> works as an ~8GB drive. Ontrack is not being used. And LILO works.
>
> As far as a _fix_ for the problem, I gather from posts that I have
> seen that it would require a BIOS upgrade. I have the most recent
> BIOS release that Dell maintains for this machine, "A06". Should I
> go
> to, say, Intel for a more recent BIOS upgrade? Can this whole 8GB
> limitation be addressed that way?
There is a new BIOS disk addressing scheme that allows access of up
to 2 TB drives, but you would also need a new boot loader that uses the
new BIOS routines (in order to boot OSes from beyond the 8 GB limit it)
and you'd need a new version of DOS that uses the routines too.
The 8 GB limit is an operating system imposed limit suffered by Win95
and WinNT. It's not a BIOS problem. More modern OSes (such as Linux)
should be able to use all 10 GB without a problem. :-)
> My only problem now (other than having paid for more disk than I am
> using and also being somewhat disgruntled with IBM's claim that
> Ontrack would "fix" the 8GB problem for older machines) is that
> Windows still views the new drive as an Iomega removable, presumably
> because this drive letter was previously held by a Zip drive. (I
> realize that this is not a Linux problem, but one fellow offered some
> help and asked for details.) The real zip drive continues to work in
> its new position, drive E:. The new IBM drive, drive D:, shows an
> Icon that claims to be an Iomega removable, but otherwise seems to
> work fine. I tried one installation onto this drive and got a
> message
> warning that I was installing onto a removable, but otherwise no
> problem. It was suggested that I looke in autoexec.bat and
> config.sys
> for hardcoded references to drive D:. Only mention of the drive
> letter was ina REM'd line in config.sys. Despite it being REM'd, I
> changed the letter to E, without any effect after rebooting. So I am
> still looking for that fix.
>
> A related problem is that I can't install much Windows stuff on the
> new drive as my "registry" is apparently full. Will have to learn
> more about that and post to an appropriate news group.
>
> Thanks very much for the posts and email.
>
> John Sterling
> sterling@cs.nyu.edu
>
>
>
> > I just bought an IBM 10 GB drive for my Dell XPS Pro 200. This
> > generation of Dell does not recognize dirves with more than 8 GB,
> > but
> > IBM provides software, Ontrack Disk manager, to get around that.
> > However after installing the drive and the software my LILO startup
> > is gone!
> >
> > (Also the disk icon in Win95 claims to be an Iomega drive. The
> > drive
> > that had this drive letter before the new one was indeed a Zip.)
> >
> > Incidentally, I do not plan on using the new drive with Linux, only
> > with Win 95/NT.
> >
> > I was unsuccessful at getting IBM tech support on the phone this
> > afternoon to ask if the two are incompatable. Can anyone here give
> > me some insight?
> >
> > Right now I'm trying to figure how to get LILO back without a
> > complete
> > reinstall of Redhat. (I have 5.0.) While I have been using Redhat
> > for over a year, I am still very inexperienced at recovering from
> > system
> > problems. So guidance here will be appreciated as well.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance,
> >
> > John Sterling
> > sterling@cs.nyu.edu
>
>
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