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Mon Oct 19 09:14:00 1998
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:10:48 -0700
From: BingHeng Guo <gbhpe@dns.nuaa.edu.cn>
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> Subject:
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> redhat-digest Digest Volume 98 : Issue 1271
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> Today's Topics:
> Re: backing up webfiles and configurations
> samba printing problems.. fixed
> memory exhausted?
> Installing 5.1
> Re: Screen Saver Problems...........
> Re: OT <OFF> Processor Questions
> RE: Setting up xdm/kdm
> RE: Renaming partition (Was Missing files)
> 2.1.125 and PPP
> RE: Xfree86 with ATI Xpert98
> Re: Installing 5.1
> xntp package working???
> Re: backing up webfiles and configurations
> Re: Re: Installing 5.1
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?comparing_Two_different_passwd=B4s?=
> RE: RH5.1/jdk-sn-1.1.6-1.2glibc.i386.rpm
> Re: samba printing
> Re: V-Cards O-F-F Please!
> Re: V-Cards O-F-F Please!
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> Subject: Re: backing up webfiles and configurations
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:02:34 +1000
> From: "Pete" <plaven@idl.net.au>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> > I would like to do a backup on my Redhat server, what I would like to do is
> > backup my network configurations and my webfiles onto my PC I have
> > connected to the same network that my Redhat server is on. Does anyone
> > know how I can accomplish this? Thanks for your time.
>
> One way would be using samba.
>
> edit your /etc/smb.conf and create the shares to the path you
> want, then just copy all the files you want using windows explorer.
>
> Pete
>
> In a world with out fences, who needs Gates?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: samba printing problems.. fixed
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:02:34 +1000
> From: "Pete" <plaven@idl.net.au>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Well, samba is now serving print services to the win95 machines. I
> found my error.
>
> I made a symlink to another fs/dir, out of sheer frustration I got rid
> of the symlink and mv'ed the original dir back.
>
> What I noticed on the /var/spool/samba dir was this:
>
> drwxrwxrwt 2 root root.
>
> What's the t in the last attribute mean, and how do I create this
> attribute so I can either linked it or create dir for samba elsewhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
> In a world with out fences, who needs Gates?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: memory exhausted?
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:02:34 +1000
> From: "Pete" <plaven@idl.net.au>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is the an error that was mailed from the cron:
>
> gawk: cmd. line:71: (FILENAME=- FNR=1084) fatal: Memory
> exhausted: /GeomReq-/
>
> What could this mean?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
> In a world with out fences, who needs Gates?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Installing 5.1
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:06:39 -0300
> From: clorenzo@ta.telecom.com.ar
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Hi, does anybody know why I can't create the bootdisk when I install Red
> Hat 5.1 ????. The screen show the legend "creating bootdisk...." but
> dev/fd0 doesn't work, I mean it has the light on but doesn't write anything
> to the floppy.
>
> Many thanks.
> Carlos
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Screen Saver Problems...........
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:31:58 -0500
> From: "Frank N. Stein" <kcsmart@microlink.net>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, whiplash sniveled:
> >>List,
> >
> > Hey everyone!! I have a quick question that is really simple, but
> >my brain seems to have quit functioning while thinking about it. :-) I
> >just put a fresh install of RH 5.1 on a Pent Pro 200 with 128 megs in it
> >(which is a screamer, I just have to add) and I'm using the AfterStep
> >desktop theme. I set everything up on the box and rebooted it to get
> >all the menu options loaded up right. I went to the menu to select a
> >screen saver with a password, and it seemed happy, but when the screen
> >goes dark there is no "screen saver" or a password to get back in. I
> >did have one minor problem with my mouse, but I went to
> >/etc/rc.d/rc3.... and killed gpm with a "K" and that fixed it. What I
> >get when the screen blanks out is just that.....a blank screen......all
> >I have to do is bump the mouse and she fires right back up to the
> >desktop with no password. I get no screen saver, to speak of, or a
> >password for re-entry. ???? Any rec's?? Also, on a side note, when I
> >first set this box up, I kicked open a game of Galaga, and it ran just
> >fine.....mouse or keyboard mode.....now, when I play it, as soon as I
> >hit the fire button using the mouse, the game pulls a Houdini on me and
> >just disappears!! I also have an identical box like this at work, and
> >the same thing happens?!?!? I can't figure it out...... Both machines
> >are Compaq DeskPro 4000's. All else is flying like the wind !!! Thanks
> >in advance for any help!!
>
> To get rid of the black screen blanking, in your ~/.xinitrc:
>
> setterm -blank 0
>
> For the rest:
>
> man xscreensaver
>
> --
> Egads! Someone's been drinking my lunch!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: OT <OFF> Processor Questions
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:21:53 -0400
> From: "Michael O'Neill" <darrow@oneillaw.com>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> At 04:02 PM 10/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >go to www.tomshardware.com for the info on the CPU. As the celeron is
> meant to
> >be a low-cost alternative to the P2, it does not support SMP. however, read
> >about the 300a (mendocino core) on the web page, and how overclockable it
> is.
> >I have plenty of friends running this setup at 450mhz, and it's solid as a
> rock
> >for them....
> >
> >go to www.pricewatch.com to find the lowest prices on the hardware...last I
> >checked, a 300a was $150, which is damned cheap for something that can be
> made
> >as fast as a 450pII.
> >
>
> great ideas.
>
> >RE the text format that you're using, if it annoys people, why use it? Is
> HTML
> >THAT beneficial to getting your point across? This is an e-mail list where
> >your messages go out to many...even if it's not an inconvenience to them,
> it is
> >a sign on your part showing that your interests are more important than
> >theirs. Just be nice and turn it off.
> >
>
> That was very nicely put. Maybe there's a place for html email, like if
> you want to send a valentine to your sweetheart, but it just seems
> unnecessary for a mailing list such as this.
>
> BTW, I sometimes use Eudora, like now, and I'm not sure what it does with
> my text. So if this is coming across as anything but straight text, please
> would someone let me know. thanks.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Setting up xdm/kdm
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:22:58 -0400
> From: "Heltzel, Dennis" <DHeltzel@IKON.com>
> To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
>
> Tyr these URLs:
> http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/May1998/article14.html
> http://torment.ntr.net/xdm/
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick O'Neil [SMTP:patrick@howard.genetics.utah.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 9:00 PM
> > To: redhat
> > Subject: Setting up xdm/kdm
> >
> > I have been trying to discover how to setup xdm (so that
> > I can then use kdm) but am lost. I simply don't get the
> > man page...they are all cryptic or seem to assume more
> > knowledge to start with than I presently have. I have
> > also failed to find any HOWTO or mini-howto on exactly
> > what it takes to setup xdm.
> >
> > I have RH 5.1, kernel 2.0.35 installed and the following
> > window managers:
> >
> > kdm (my present primary wm)
> > Enlightenment (which I would like to play with a lot
> > more-I like it)
> > Icewm (haven't tried it yet)
> > Window Maker (haven't tried it yet)
> > fvwm2/AnotherLevel
> >
> > Right now, I only have Enlightenment running when I
> > login as root or startx as su. I would like to setup
> > kdm (and need to get there by first getting xdm running)
> > so I can login and select whichever wm I want to play with.
> >
> > I do not have any .xsessions, nor any other file EXCEPT
> > xinitrc which has the original fvwm2, fvwm, etc, entries
> > commented out and replaced with the simple "startkde".
> >
> > What do I need to do to get xdm setup and THEN kdm? I
> > have even been reading in my _RedHat Linux Unleashed_ but
> > it only has a couple short paragraphs about xdm...and it
> > certainly isn't enough.
> >
> > I searched the Linux Documentation Project page for anything
> > regarding xdm...nothing. Not. A. Thing.
> >
> > Please help me out here.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------
> > "If a man hasn't discovered something that
> > he will die for, he isn't fit to live."
> > --Martin Luther King, Jr
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > Padraig UiNiall
> >
> >
> > --
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>
> Subject: RE: Renaming partition (Was Missing files)
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:31:55 -0400
> From: "Heltzel, Dennis" <DHeltzel@IKON.com>
> To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
>
> This is just my opinion, but I've been using UNIX in various flavors for 10+
> years and I *never* put anything in /tmp and expect it to be there more that
> a few minutes. The classic use for /tmp is to house temporary files like
> editor image backups (vi, emacs, etc.), or to put temporary files from
> processes that need to store intermediate results in a file for some reason
> ( a situation that can usually, but not always, be avoided with good
> programming).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Galpin [SMTP:cgalpin@lighthouse-software.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 1998 9:07 PM
> > To: Heltzel, Dennis
> > Subject: RE: Renaming partition (Was Missing files)
> >
> > ===== Original Message from "Heltzel, Dennis" <redhat-list@redhat.com> at
> > 10/18/98 7:17 pm
> > >Yup, just rename the dir with the mv command:
> > >
> > >mv /tmp /stuff
> > >mkdir /tmp
> > >
> > >Note that it is never a good idea to put permanent stuff in a dir called
> > >tmp, after all, tmp means temporary, right ?
> >
> > YES. please don't tell me this is the the solution you are going to live
> > with. After reading Ray's first response, I read the man page for
> > tmpwatch.
> > I too have been sticking stuff in /tmp thinking it was safe.
> >
> > Well I suggest an alternative, although I'd say Ray's were just as good.
> >
> > Make a symbolic link to a directory elsewhere and put everything you want
> > to
> > keep in there. tmpwatch will not follow symbolic links.
> >
> > --
> > Charles Galpin <cgalpin@lighthouse-software.com>
> >
> >
> > --
> > PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES!
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> > "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: 2.1.125 and PPP
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:33:48 -0500
> From: David_M_Morgan@rsh.net
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Has anyone gotten 2.1.125 to work with ppp? I've tried compiling it in as a
> module and actually into the kernel and no matter what t wont do it. No
> problems with 2.0.35 though, ppp version is ok, 2.2.3 so that shouldn't be
> it, so how bout anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Xfree86 with ATI Xpert98
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:39:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: gdoris@shaw.wave.ca
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> I have the ATI Xpert98 card and it's working fine under RedHat 5.1. I let the
> program select Mach64 and away it went. No problems. Let me know if you're
> still having troubles and I'll send you my XF86 config file to look at.
>
> Gerry
>
> On 19-Oct-98 Ken Hsu wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me whether Xfree86 supports this card? I know it uses the
> > Rage Pro chipset, but when my friend installed xfree86 and tried starting
> > the x server, the screen just blanks out, and the computer froze and he
> > had to reboot, then when he checked the log xfree is complaining about
> > chip idset mismatch for the ati rage pro chipset??? does anyone know why?
> > I will get him to tell me the exact error messages .... but if anyone can
> > help out in the meantime it will be greatly appreciated...
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Ken C. Hsu <kch@usc.edu>
> > University of Southern California
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > --
> > PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES!
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> > "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
>
> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: gdoris@shaw.wave.ca
> Date: 19-Oct-98
> Time: 07:37:34
>
> "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer
> ----------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Installing 5.1
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:20:40 +1100 (EST)
> From: Chris Fishwick <rimmer@calvin.nu>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> > Hi, does anybody know why I can't create the bootdisk when I install Red
> > Hat 5.1 ????. The screen show the legend "creating bootdisk...." but
> > dev/fd0 doesn't work, I mean it has the light on but doesn't write anything
> > to the floppy.
>
> Why is it that you are actually creating a bootdisk?? I assume that you
> are booting off of your CD-ROM in which case, the only reason you need to
> make a boot disk is for rescue purposes, which you can do after the
> installation has completed anyway...
>
> I don't know why it is that it will not create the disk, however if you
> really want one before you install, then you can create one from a DOS
> machine which you can access the CDROM from.. Just use the rawrite program
> to write out the relevent image file to a floppy disk...
>
> Also, is the floppy drive light on all the time?? If so, then the cable
> is probably plugged in the wrong way around...
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: xntp package working???
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:48:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: gdoris@shaw.wave.ca
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> I have been struggling for the last week to get the xntp package that came with
> RedHat 5.1 to work. I had xntp working under Caldera but for some reason it
> just will not function now that that I've ungraded the box to RedHat.
>
> The kernel reports that ntpdate is running and sync'ing with a time server. I
> get a message back within a few seconds that I'm out by a second or so. xntp
> then starts up and everything seems fine.
>
> However, in the /var/log/messages there is a line that states that port 123 is
> already in use and xntp failed to initialize. Finally, xntp sync's to the
> local host. Using netstat I've looked at the ports in use and 123 isn't one of
> them. In /etc/services 123 is allocated to time services.
>
> Has anyone actually got xntp running with RedHat 5.1? Anyone have any ideas???
>
> Gerry
>
> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: gdoris@shaw.wave.ca
> Date: 19-Oct-98
> Time: 07:39:55
>
> "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer
> ----------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: backing up webfiles and configurations
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:49:26 +0200
> From: "Anthony E. Greene" <agreene@pobox.com>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> At 20:02 1998-10-19 +1000, Pete wrote:
> >> I would like to do a backup on my Redhat server, what I would like to do is
> >> backup my network configurations and my webfiles onto my PC I have
> >> connected to the same network that my Redhat server is on. Does anyone
> >> know how I can accomplish this? Thanks for your time.
> >
> >One way would be using samba.
> >
> >edit your /etc/smb.conf and create the shares to the path you
> >want, then just copy all the files you want using windows explorer.
>
> It would be best to tar/gzip the files first to keep the ownership,
> permissions, and other file properties intact. Then copy the tarball. You
> could do this as a cron job.
>
> Tony
> --
> Anthony E. Greene <agreene@pobox.com>
> Homepage and PGP Key: <http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Re: Installing 5.1
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:06:20 -0300
> From: clorenzo@ta.telecom.com.ar
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> further details....
> PC Configuration:
> Intel Pentinum II 300 Mhz ( Celeron)
> 64 MB RAM
> 2 HD:
> 1,2 GB ( just for linux )
> 4.3 GB M$ and other Stuff...
>
> Personal use, not office or job.
>
> >> Hi, does anybody know why I can't create the bootdisk when I install Red
> >> Hat 5.1 ????. The screen show the legend "creating bootdisk...." but
> >> dev/fd0 doesn't work, I mean it has the light on but doesn't write
> anything
> >> to the floppy.
> >
>
> >Why is it that you are actually creating a bootdisk?? I assume that you
> >are booting off of your CD-ROM in which case, the only reason you need to
> >make a boot disk is for rescue purposes, which you can do after the
> >installation has completed anyway...
>
> The reason I am trying to create a bootdisk, is that I dont want LILO to be
> placed on
> the boot record of my hard disks. I prefer to have it on a floppy because
> that is the only
> way of booting linux and avoiding family problems...
> I have always had the boot disk made by the installation process, on
> previous versions of Red Hat, and this is the first time I am having
> trouble with it.
>
> >I don't know why it is that it will not create the disk, however if you
> >really want one before you install, then you can create one from a DOS
> >machine which you can access the CDROM from.. Just use the rawrite program
> >to write out the relevent image file to a floppy disk...
>
> If I do this, then how can I set the root password ??, the only way I know
> is to make
> the boot.img floppy, but this always starts the installation process, as
> far as I know.
>
> >Also, is the floppy drive light on all the time?? If so, then the cable
> >is probably plugged in the wrong way around...
>
> The floppy drive works fine under M$ DOS and Windows 98
>
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Chris
>
> Thanks again
> Carlos M Lorenzo
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: comparing Two different passwd´s
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:55:46 -0200
> From: Psychotron <psychotron@cwb.conex.com.br>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Hello All!!
>
> My machine is going down and I need to move the passwd file to another
> server, which has a different passwd. Both of them are huge files. All I
> need is just to find a way to discover wich user names are common to both
> of them, in order for me to change them. But I can´t find anyway to do this
> :( Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> Psy
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: RH5.1/jdk-sn-1.1.6-1.2glibc.i386.rpm
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:13:40 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Brian <signal@shreve.net>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, sma202 wrote:
>
> > no. Set CLASSPATH to where your "classes.zip" is. I think its in
> > ~/jdk/lib/...I cant remember and cant check right now because i'm in
> > windows...
> >
> >
>
> That does not help. I just tried on 2 other systems, a clean install,
> install of the jdk-1.1.6, and same results. You shouldnt have to set
> CLASSPATH...........JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME maybe, but I have tried that as
> well.
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian [mailto:signal@shreve.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:10 AM
> > > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
> > > Subject: RE: RH5.1/jdk-sn-1.1.6-1.2glibc.i386.rpm
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, sma202 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you set the classpath...the blackdown.org faq says you dont
> > > need to do
> > > > it, but I had to do it to make my programs run.
> > > >
> > >
> > > set the classpath to the directory the class file is in that you are
> > > executing? in other words if the program I was executing was
> > > /tmp/foo.class I would have to set CLASSPATH=/tmp?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Brian [mailto:signal@shreve.net]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 12:06 AM
> > > > > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
> > > > > Subject: RH5.1/jdk-sn-1.1.6-1.2glibc.i386.rpm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to install java support for linux (redhat-5.1) and it
> > > just doesn't
> > > > > seem to be working. I have been using java under linux since the
> > > > > beginning, it works on our other systems just not redhat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clean install+errata upgrades of RH5.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Install of hurricane/jdk-sn-1.1.6-1.2glibc.i386.rpm
> > > > >
> > > > > JAVA support is compiled into the kernel, directly, not as a module.
> > > > >
> > > > > echo "/usr/lib/jdk-1.1.6" >/proc/sys/kernel/java-interpreter
> > > > >
> > > > > program is:
> > > > >
> > > > > class HelloWorld {
> > > > > public static void main(String args[]) {
> > > > > System.out.println("Hello World!");
> > > > > }
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > /usr/lib/jdk-1.1.6/bin/javac HelloWorld.java compiles it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ./HelloWorld.class produces nothing, just the command prompt,
> > > no output,
> > > > > but on Slackware it gives me the correct output. What could be the
> > > > > matter? I have been over and over this, and have concluded
> > > that jdk-1.1.6
> > > > > isn't working under RH5.1. I even grabbed the tar.gz for the
> > > jdk and it
> > > > > still produces the same results.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Subject: Re: samba printing
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Quinn Coldiron <qcoldiron@yahoo.com>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> I've never had much luck using the generic printer settings. I'd get
> the same thing you are getting, so I have always set the following in
> the [global] section:
>
> printing = BSD
> printcap name = /etc/printcap
> load printers = yes
> print command = /usr/bin/lpr -r -P %p %s
>
> and then I specifically set each printer that I have:
>
> [Laser]
> comment = HP Laser Printer
> path = /var/spool/samba
> print = Laser-Text
> browseable = yes
> printable = yes
> public = yes
> writeable = yes
>
> Each printer setting points to a printer in my /etc/printcap file.
>
> Quinn
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> Subject: Re: V-Cards O-F-F Please!
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:23:51 +0100
> From: "Thomas Ribbrock (Design/DEG)" <argathin@iname.com>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Tim Daigle writes:
> > "If you want me to read what you have to say, please make it easy for me."
> >
> > Wow! sometimes this list is a paradox. We use Linux, a fairly complex
> > operating system that requires a certain level of technical prowess to use.
> > We criticise M$ for dumbing things down too much. But we still use Pine and
> > complain when we get emails with v-card info and HTML ... and then go to
> > the extreme and request that all mail be in acsii. Huh...
>
> <rant>
> In my opinion, people who use the likes of pine, mutt, elm, etc.pp. mostly
> do have a good reason to do so - and that reason more often than not is
> *ease of use* (yes, all of the above can be easy to use and even intuitive,
> if you're used to that style of working!). Heck, I'm using mutt, and mutt
> *does* support html (with lynx), v-cards (with external Perl filter),
> ms-tnef (external C-filter) and all that rubbish, but I have *yet* to see
> *one* mail that actually got "enhanced" by using all that crap. What I
> *have* seen were html mails with triple the size of the original mail,
> ms-tnef mails with 17 times (1.7KB as opposed to 100bytes!!!) the size of
> the original mail - and with no change in content. (On that note: v-cards
> are by far the most harmless offenders, as they are only small text
> attachments. They're still obsolete, IMHO).
> I still think that anybody who needs to revert to rtf, html or the likes to
> make a point should consider whether simply refomulating the
> sentence/paragraph in plain English (German, Dutch, Irish, Kisuhaeli,
> <insert appropriate language here>) wouldn't go a lot further...
>
> A completely different point is the fact that most M$ and N$ mail programs
> default to that crappy behaviour without informing the user about the
> consequences (e.g. bloat-ware mails...). I won't start on that one now...
> :-/
> </rant>
>
> Thomas
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> Subject: Re: V-Cards O-F-F Please!
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:28:33 +0100
> From: "Thomas Ribbrock (Design/DEG)" <argathin@iname.com>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com
>
> Charles Galpin writes:
> > While we are on the subject of bandwidth eating messages, would anyone care
> > to expound on what 'proper' quote trimming etiquette is? I seem to get
> > criticized for leaving too much of a quote, but of think it's needed to get
> > the full context.
>
> In my opinion, "propper" trimming of quotes involves the following steps:
>
> - delete *all* quoted signature lines
> - delete greetings and closings, at least if your mailer adds something
> along the lines of "XXX writes:" (like e.g. mutt)
> - delete all paragraphs/lines that are not related to the
> question/problem/what-ever you're answering to.
>
> Most annoying (for me) are mails where the sender writes a few lines and
> leaves the whole original message including headers/footers/sigs before or
> after his/her own lines, as this does not add to context and just wastes
> bandwidth.
>
> HTH,
>
> Thomas
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