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Re: Rijndael & Hitachi

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven M. Bellovin)
Wed Oct 11 10:38:00 2000

From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
To: Michael Paul Johnson <mpj@ebible.org>
Cc: "Arnold G. Reinhold" <reinhold@world.std.com>,
        Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>, coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net,
        cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:25:21 -0400
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In message <5.0.0.25.2.20001010154833.03a01b80@ebible.org>, Michael Paul Johnso
n writes:
>
>To put this suggestion into perspective, consider that in the real world, pure
> cipher strength is rarely the weakest link in the security chain, provided th
>at a reasonable key length and cipher are chosen. Having done that, go for it 
>if you still think you can afford the extra time, space, and key management wi
>th (probably) no measurable increase in overall system security.

Precisely.  What is the *real* threat model?

History does indeed show that believed-secure ciphers may not be, and 
that we do indeed need a safety margin.  But history shows even more 
strongly that there are many better ways to the plaintext, and that's 
the real goal.

		--Steve Bellovin




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